Stats from here: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Like, has an instance gone down and if so, why hasn’t there been a comparable drop in users and comments?

Edit: Thanks to @example@reddthat.com here for pointing to zerobytes.monster becoming more aggressive against bots as the likely culprit.

  • @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    96•3 months ago

    It may have been lemmy.zip

    It did in fact go down for about 48 hours… prompting me to make this new account on dbzer0.

    Basically, the admin attempted to update to a newer lemmy version… and it failed, multiple times, and they just rolled back, restored the old version, posted an explanation and apology, and they’ll be further looking into … exactly what went wrong.

      • @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        11•3 months ago

        i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

        I don’t know exactly how that post counter … actually, technically counts posts, but:

        1:

        Zip going down could have uncounted all posts anywhere made by zip accounts.

        2:

        There could have been some kind of… propogating post count negation effect, as various other instances reacted differently to zip users posts on their instances could not pull them anymore, on different time scales.

        3:

        If a zip user had a … top level comment, on another instance, its possible all lower level comments responding to that comment may also have poofed out of existence, in some respect.

        …

        I may be misusing some terminology here, and this is just spitballing, but yeah.

        Almost all of my .zip account’s posts/comments… are not on zip itself, and its possible that that is fairly common amongst .zip users.

        • flamingos-cantOPEnglish
          7•3 months ago

          i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

          ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ => ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          Just so we’re clear, what this crawler does is go through all servers that use ActivityPub known to it, and congregate that data to a list of known services (Lemmy, Mastodon, Piefed etc.). How is does that is by querying a standardised end point to get the instance info (.well-known/nodeinfo which will then point to a different path to get the actual info).

          For instance, here’s what it will collect for feddit.uk:

          nodeinfo json 
          // curl -s https://feddit.uk/nodeinfo/2.1 | jq
{
  "version": "2.1",
  "software": {
    "name": "lemmy",
    "version": "0.19.10-feddit",
    "repository": "https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy",
    "homepage": "https://join-lemmy.org/"
  },
  "protocols": [
    "activitypub"
  ],
  "usage": {
    "users": {
      "total": 4184,
      "activeHalfyear": 718,
      "activeMonth": 485
    },
    "localPosts": 25750,
    "localComments": 122835
  },
  "openRegistrations": true,
  "services": {
    "inbound": [],
    "outbound": []
  },
  "metadata": {}
}

          The important stat here is the localPosts, which is all the posts made by local users in any community, local or remote. It does not include posts by users from remote instances made in local communities. You can also see this data on the instance sidebar in lemmy-ui.

          lemmy.zip going down will only reduce aggregated stats for total posts by 47,280, as that’s what they report for their localPosts.

          • I Cast FistEnglish
            1•3 months ago

            Do comments count as posts? Because losing all comments from an instance would probably explain such a huge dip

    • tisktiskEnglish
      19•3 months ago

      Is divide by zero becoming the most based instance? How did a single bro make best lemmy?!?

      • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        10•3 months ago

        I’d say dbzer0 is probably the most leftist, at least from what I’ve seen. I personally don’t go as far as being an anarchist but can appreciate the philosophy. I probably have more in common with anarchy than democratic/plurality governance, if I’m being honest with myself.

          • @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4•3 months ago

            If I were to pronounce it outloud, I would say:

            D. B. Zero.

            Like D. B. Cooper, lol.

            the… zer(o), 0 swap is… basically old school l33tsp34k… like uh… l00tb0x, pr0n, type of … dialect? syntax?

        • @moakley@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3•3 months ago

          Lately I’ve been seeing a lot of comments coming from that instance that are indistinguishable from the ones I see from .ml.

  • @Hubi@feddit.orgEnglish
    41•3 months ago

    I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced…

  • @example@reddthat.comEnglish
    41•3 months ago

    I think this is zerobytes.monster, one of the reddit mirror instances.

    the post count fits and it also matches with the user count not significantly dropping.

    that instance has been using rather strict waf blocking rules from time to time that likely also affect the crawler for fediverse.observer.

    • flamingos-cantOPEnglish
      6•3 months ago

      Yeah, I thought it must be a Reddit repost instance, thanks for pointing to the right one.

    • @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1•2 months ago

      I missed your reply weeks ago, and I know upvotes are worthless, but you deserve most of mine from this thread =P

      Its been a long time since I have actually seen crowd sourcing actually work in a non exploitative way to solve a problem, be productive.

  • Libra00English
    40•3 months ago

    Nicole posts were banned and deleted en mass?

  • @floo@retrolemmy.comEnglish
    28•3 months ago

    It’s probably just some technical issue. I’m sure the post didn’t actually go anywhere.

  • OskarEnglish
    18•3 months ago

    “I felt a great disturbance in the Force…as if millions of posts were routed to dev/null and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.”