• RuBisCO
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    That press can really handle the pressure. What’s the estimated PSI on that 4th panel? Looks like half of the volume has been compressed. Supercritical french press!

    • @Pyotr@lemmy.world
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      I see you found a space on top of the cabinets to cast aspersions on the fridge top squatter in the comic.

      Would make for an excellent hidden panel.

  • @FreeBeard@slrpnk.net
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    Again we are talking about the coffee maker as if it’s the most important part in the quality of your coffee. It’s also how you spot someone pretending to know coffee. Far more important are the beans. After the beans comes your grinder and water quality.

    A connaisseur can enjoy every style of coffee making but never bad beans. Industrial type of coffee is mostly on the bad side btw…

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    I really don’t understand why people are so weird about coffee. And I don’t mean “why are people so judgmental” I mean “why are people so weirdly defensive about it”.

    If you post a picture of a well done steak online people will verbally skin you alive.

    People will travel to be able to go to some of the few restaurants with chefs that know how to prepare fugu without killing you.

    People will pay hundreds, sometimes even thousands of dollars for certain alcoholic beverages.

    And yet coffee is seen as this uniquely smug thing, even if you’re pouring water into a $10 plastic funnel or mixing coffee grounds in a glass jar. Like, yeah, if you have $10,000 worth of equipment you’re clearly a wealthy person with a hobby, but again, pour over and a French press is literally just a funnel and a jar respectively.

    • @infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
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      To be fair, consider the expansive global industry required to enjoy coffee. The supply chains for steak, fugu, and alcohol don’t really compare. The fact that just about anyone in the global north can enjoy a coffee at any time of day for a few bucks really is a luxurious privilege.

      • @rumschlumpel@feddit.org
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        The only part that really stands out for coffee is the farming of the raw material. Alcohol compares favourably if you buy local, but it’s really common to buy spirits and wines from different continents that may be aged in casks from yet another continent, which isn’t really any less involved than coffee.

  • @Vespair@lemm.ee
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    It’s all bean water and the sanctimony people attach to any of it is weird.

    It’s also funny to make a comment about French presser users judging other coffee drinkers which inherently judges the french presser.

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    Sooo what I find funny is… all things considered, French Press isn’t even that sophisticated; it doesn’t involve adjusting the speed at which one pours the water, so it’s a lot less technically demanding than using like a V60 or something… I think the last time I went to a coffee class the instructors were all scoffing at the French Press lol (including one of them not wanting to “waste” a really high-quality batch of coffee on a French Press)

    Also James Hoffmann has an alternative technique for using a French Press that makes coffee that is less “muddy”… basically doing the same as usual, but after 4 minutes instead of plunging, try to us a spoon to remove all the foam, and then keep the coffee inside for another 5-10 min. Then pour out coffee without plunging

    • @pastermil@sh.itjust.works
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      There’s Melita-style and Chemex pourovers which is less demanding on the pouring techniques.

      Also, a lot of people seem to use too fine of grind size for french press, which requires coarse grind.

    • @WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
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      Pour like 3/4 full, stir, then cover with a coffee filter (that’s the same size as the French press) before filling the rest of the way.

      It’s similar to how a lot of japanese cooking tells you to scoop off the foam, or you can use coffee filters on top of your soup to catch the foam.

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      28 days ago

      And at the end of the day, all hot brewing methods are still inferior to the stupidest patient person.

      Cold brew is objectively better coffee, and literally just requires you to delay coffee satisfaction by like 15-20 hours.

      • Annoyed_🦀
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        I wonder if i can use fine powder to do it, sounds like something that might actually save me times in the morning

      • @odelik@lemmy.today
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        There is no objectivity in taste. Coffee drinking is a spectrum of preferences from flavor profiles delivered by growing, bean blending and roasting practices to acidity, particulate matter, strength, caffeine content, additives (milk/sugar/etc), and other subjectivity.

        I personally don’t enjoy most cold brews, or cold coffee in general, as cold coffee tends to allow more fruity flavors come through, which I do not enjoy at all in my coffee experience.

        I however, would not turn down a cold brew if that’s all that’s available. I mean, hell, I’ll drink a cup of black from a rundown diner that’s brewed from folgers and been sitting on a hot plate for 30+ minutes. And if that’s somebody’s favorite cup of coffee, I’m not gonna judge them and tell them their coffee is inferior.

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    Pour over gang unite! It’s so much easier, makes a better cup, AND it’s so much easier to clean. Leave it to a Frenchman to needlessly complicate a cup of Joe, then act like it’s the greatest thing since sliced snails.

    • @Landless2029@lemmy.world
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      I’ve tried several methods of preparing coffee beans.

      Pour over blew my mind with its smooth taste and flavor.

      My default is espresso from a machine or a moka pot.

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    This is wrong. You need to steep in cold water for 24 hours.

  • @faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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    I’ve got the best way to make coffee. You take the absolute cheapest instant coffee you can find, and a bit of salt to make it palatable. My grandpa says they made it like that when he visited Vietnam, so it must be pretty fancy, right?

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    And then there’s me, who just dumps some coffee grounds in a cup, adds boiled water, and stirs it to sink the solid matter to the bottom of the cup so it’s drinkable without being chewy.

    All these fancy toys for making coffee are just extra things to clean. I’m too lazy for that.

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      Eh, coffee itself is apparently really high in cholesterol, and simple paper filters do a nice job getting rid of it. I had no idea, learned recently. French pressers suffer a similar fate, so drip all day for me.

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        I did not know that about the cholesterol, appreciated info!

        I barely drink coffee anymore these days since caffeine pills are just so much easier, but I’ll keep it in mind for the rest of the bag of beans in my cupboard.

        Also this probably explains how some vegans have such high cholesterol despite no animal products being consumed.

        • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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          Yeah, I know I certainly wouldn’t have expected it. I stopped doing the French press because I found it gave me serious heartburn, where drip somehow does not. Caffeine pills seems like a much simpler solution, although I’ve really dialed it back to my one (double) cup in the morning and that’s it. And apparently two cups of coffee is a-ok.