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Vampire [any]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Putin says Russia ready to hold talks on the future of Ukraine

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Putin says Russia ready to hold talks on the future of Ukraine

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President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia would be prepared to talk to Ukraine, the United States and Europe about the future of Ukraine if they wanted to, but that Moscow would defend its…
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      praising of a genocidal dictator

      um nobody here is praising Joe Biden

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        Right, Saddam didn’t gas thousands of Kurds to exterminate their culture. My bad.

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          Who was Saddam’s top allies during the Anfal campaign? Who gave him the gas? Like all neocon propagandists you’re completely full of shit and yet you have the fuckin gall to open your filthy mouth and talk about genocidal dictator this and that after what the US did to Iraq, go fuck yourself shitlib

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          Right, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden’s bullets, bombs, and depleted uranium thatve killed and displaced millions of Iraqi citizens are obviously much better.

          Isn’t worshipping the lesser of two evils you liberal demons whole political ideology?

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              So you think the guy who killed millions is better than the guy who killed thousands? You think the guy who killed millions is the lesser of two evils?
              Why might that be? Does it have something to do with the people killed? us-foreign-policy

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              The American autocrats you worship did an order of magnitude more evil than Sadam ever could.

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            You already know lmao

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              Its just to prove the point that this cowardly disgusting sack of shit would never own up to it

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                  kim-jong-il

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              Now what’s your opinion on the state of Ukraine. Or the USA while we’re at it.

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          Who gave him the gas to do that dude?

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      You’re really conflating seething hatred for America destroying a country with praise for Saddam Hussein? You reactionaries really can’t see in anything beyond binary terms, can you?

      Saddam was fucking atrocious, but Iraq had working infrastructure under him (and his rise to power was aided by the US, so he was another pawn)

      They had that torn apart courtesy of America and are only just building back

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        Sorry, we’re all out of empathy here in the west. Try getting better bootstraps, thirdworlders.

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          Better off how? I pointed out their power grid is shit, their water table is contaminated, their buildings are bombed out, and everything but their oil has been privatized. Materially, they’re fucked 3 ways to Sunday.

          If you’re trying to still make digs about ‘supporting Saddam killing Kurds’ or w/e, I’ll point out again that Saddam had the full backing of the US until Kuwait

          And you can get rid of people like him without invading the country and tearing it asunder

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            It’s almost like european powers pit ethnic groups against eachother to destabilize resource-rich regions.

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          The Americans did not care about the people Saddam killed, and they killed millions more Iraqis then he ever did, you’re a delusional racist and a war worshiping dipshit

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            It’s true, the number of times i heard “glass the middle east” as a child comprehensively destroyed for me the idea of america as a force for anything good, and of americans as an aggregate being anything but a swarm of stupid bloodthirsty assholes once they get activated.

            I have hope for the individuals, but as a collective identity? No more American, the world does not need American.

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          my argument was they are better off now.

          According to who?

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            Apparently this bozo’s feelings

            Motherfucker is acting like all libs, like this is some marvel movie shit to them where after the US got Saddam, all the ‘good guys’ stood on top of a building in downtown Baghdad at night and said ‘We have hope now’ and then the credits rolled

            They forgot this is real life

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              Yes I’m sure the Kurds situation has been improved greatly by not having running water or electricity.
              By the way, who gave Saddam that gas?

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              The dead Kurds are better off now? Did you use a medium to survey them?

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              The Kurds killed with chemical weapon technology supplied by the US? The killings that the US tried to frame Iran for? After which the US refused to sanction Iraq and continued to provide dual-use technology to Iraq.

              Those dead Kurds?

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            Jan 6th is America’s Libya moment, and China should missile strike the US airforce and establish a no-fly zone over North America to insure the U.S. regime can’t kill their insurgents

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          They don’t have functional infrastructure 20 years after the war and they did under Saddam. You really think the US was interested in anything besides cannibalizing the country for resources?

          edit: Oh yeah, they were interested in one other thing: handing lucrative ”rebuilding” contracts to corporations like Halliburton with direct ties to the Bush admin.

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      Hey quick question, what’s worse: opposing the US empire, or being the US empire and giving Saddam Hussein chemical weapons to attack Iran?

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      What the fuck? There isn’t a single word of praise for any thing or anyone in that comment are you this fucking delusional???

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          Are you simple, jack?

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      “oh shid oh fuck I wandered outside my echo chamber oh shiiiiiiiii”

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      I’m with you. It’s not fair to make judgments based on the material reality of people’s lives. You clearly said the word dictator, which means bad guy from an exotic locale. You won the argument. What are all these commies talking about?

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      The Iraq war and the aftermath probably killed more Iraqis than Saddam’s entire reign.

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        Without a doubt. The war led to millions of deaths

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      Fucking libs, man. Give them the slightest push against their preconceived notions and they immediately start slinging shit instead of relating to the arguments at hand.
      “Hey here’s some facts about how life was measurably better before we bombed the shit out of Iraq”.
      “Whatever you love Saddam”.

      You would have supported the Iraq war. You would have supported the Vietnam war. You would have supported the Kent state shootings. You would have eagerly reported local communists during the red scare.

      Please acquire some critical thinking skills you cretin

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        I remember when “Saddam lover” was something libs made fun of right wingers for throwing out willy nilly

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          Then Obama got elected and suddenly anyone who even asks questions about Syria is an Assad lover

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      Bitch, you’re the one saying the genocidal slaughter and immiseration of millions of Iraqis is a good thing.

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