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Despite the U.S. and Israeli governments’ growing rift over the Gaza war, the Biden administration continues to authorize major weapons transfers.
  • invo_rt [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    91·
    2 years ago

    I’m glad that the Biden admin told Isr*el not to attack Rafah, but made sure to load them up with everything they need to do it.

    There isn’t a lib on this earth that can make me feel an ounce of shame for not voting for this absolute ghoul.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    87·
    2 years ago

    So glad to know he’s trying his hardest to get our votes; hey libs, keep trying to convince tons and tons of people to change their minds instead of this one geriatric, totally sensible choice and a sign of democracy working as intended.

  • Yor [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    86·
    2 years ago

    I hope nobody is distracted by him barely pandering to the queer community while this goes on. This is what Biden really stands for

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.mlEnglish
            60·
            2 years ago

            Israel, with full US backing, is destroying the entire concept of international law. ICJ? ICC? Security Council? All worthless.

            Yes, American foreign policy affects the entire world, and right now America is letting Israel lay the groundwork for World War III.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.mlEnglish
                49·
                2 years ago

                I’m trans in a red state, they’re gonna fucking kill me if they get the chance.

                I still won’t vote for genocide.

                • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  30·
                  2 years ago

                  This is what I’ve been saying to libs recently. I’m just going to vote for Trump (not actually. I just want to shut up liberals). They don’t have a response to that at all, they think it’s unthinkable and there’s no arguing with it. It’s only when you’re an uncommitted leftist is when you owe them votes. Yet under their same metrics, I can easily claim a vote for Trump is strategic to prevent genocide, because maybe then the Democrats would understand my disapproval and change their tune on Palestine (I don’t believe this and also don’t believe presidential elections in the US matter, I’m just fucking sick of smug liberals telling me I must, no matter what, throw in a vote for 150 year old who’s slaughtering Palestinians just because he’s a Democrat)

                  Hey any libs reading this. Go argue with conservatives about voting for Biden. They outnumber us like 100:1 and are way closer to Biden politically than we are.

              • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
                38·
                2 years ago

                I don’t like cleaning up shit, but sometimes you just hold your nose and do it.

                Wtf does this gibberish even mean, this is about genocide you dumb fuck, you’re literally just a fascist, don’t come in here and start babbling about “holding your nose” you filthy wretch

          • thisismyrealname [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            53·
            2 years ago

            I’m not going to gamble with Trump’s fascistic Plan 2025.

            fascism is already here in effect if not appearance. the president wants to pass an extremely draconian immigration bill and is simultaneously backing the wholesale slaughter of Palestinians. you need to understand that for all intents and purposes Biden is as bad as Trump, even on minority rights. the lip service from Democrats about book bans and abortion restrictions is worthless because they refuse to step outside the bounds of liberal norms to actually defend oppressed people.

          • MaeBorowski [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            49·
            2 years ago

            American foreign policy affects the entire world.

            And you think Biden’s foreign policy hasn’t been a much bigger catastrophe for the world than Trump’s was? How can you post so good on economics and MMT and China and then post this kind of liberal dredge? madeline-shock

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.mlEnglish
                45·
                2 years ago

                Okay, some counterpoints:

                1. Trump is incredibly fucking stupid, in addition to being a wildcard. Not only can we never predict what he’s going to do, the ruling class can’t predict what he’s going to do. Worse (for them) is that he’ll just do stuff even if it’s counterproductive or harms US interests.

                2. Biden’s domestic policy is basically “let the red states do whatever they want to queer people because it’s good for elections” which really isn’t that much better than Trump. The state-level anti-trans legislation that has passed during Biden’s term is going to lead to more deaths. He owns that because he doesn’t care about us.

                3. If you’re telling me the only reason Democrats aren’t actively joining a bipartisan genocide of queer people is because they believe they need to pander to the progressive left, something I agree with, then that’s literally a hostage situation. “Vote for us or we’ll fucking kill you.”

                4. I’m a trans woman and I can only speak for myself as just one individual, but I am not going to vote for someone else’s genocide to maybe (not even certainly, maybe) protect myself. I already voted for this once. It’s my fault. If I had any bravery I’d find a way to throw by body into the gears of the machine to slow it down, not cowardly protect myself by throwing other people in my place.

                5. Israel is doing this genocide waving a rainbow flag. They butcher children in my name. They wear my fucking colors and pretend like they’re progressive and pro-queer while they pound Gaza with 2000 pound bombs.

                6. I already voted for this once and I want to die. Have you been listening to the news? Not the bullshit from CNN/MSNBC/NPR but the real news from DemocracyNow and Al Jazeera- even TikTok is a better source than the center-left horseshit these days. Have you been listening? The horror stories I keep hearing are making it hard to keep going. I voted for this. I’d rather die than vote for this again.

                7. Bushnell has had more influence on American politics than every vote either us have ever cast in our entire lives.

              • Wakmrow [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                8·
                2 years ago

                Why are you talking about this lol. It’s project 2025.

                Also what are you talking about domestic policies regarding LGBTQ lol

          • NewLeaf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            8·
            2 years ago

            We already have fascism. We are just at the “and then they came for me and there was nobody to speak out” part.

            Anyone who doesn’t feel the weight of the American jackboot on their neck come from a position of privilege

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
        62·
        2 years ago

        I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies. It is entirely possible to strategically vote to protect the lives of minorities from being endangered

        Except voting for Biden is not strategically voting “to protect the lives of minorities from being endangered” considering the fact Biden has Trump beat on deportations, police funding, prosecution of minority protest/civil rights groups; and normalizing genocide by VOTING for the man who is committing it definitely doesn’t protect Muslims and Arabs,

        Who’s left, queer people who he left to the right-wing mass harassment wolves during the last four years because he was comfortably in power? Like these are basic facts the bluemagas refuse to digest

        Your failure of analysis lies in the fact you don’t recognize that Biden is the accelertionist candidate, while Trump’s incompetence, unpopularity and animosity he receives from the democratic wing of capital is the far safer bet in terms of harm reduction

        Right now capital is united, with Trump in office Dems are gonna have an impossible task of going along with him after the apocalyptic anti-trump narrative they’ve seeded the media with, it’s in that disconnect just like after 2016 the new left can actually grow and organize

        It’s easier to oppose Trump than Biden, and for that reason alone minorities like me want to see the dems eat shit

          • 2Password2Remember [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            33·
            2 years ago

            I don’t understand why people are so adamant about not voting for Biden

            damn i wonder if it has anything to do with the genocide he’s doing

            Death to America

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
            24·
            2 years ago

            I don’t know if I should say this, but it is becoming quite clear to me that Western leftists are more interested in moralizing the issues than to actually build a revolutionary movement. Perhaps this is why there are so few left wing movements left in the Western imperial core? I don’t think they actually want to win and take power. I’m not saying this is the main problem, but certainly worth thinking more about it.

            Ok this doesn’t make any sense in the context of voting for Biden and the Democratic Party, the left will NEVER win voting for the dems which should be clear to anyone who’s been alive these last forty years

            Biden’s victory in 2020 obliterated the American left and the Sanders movement that gave it steam, ironically the only one moralizing here is the person demanding we vote for a genocider because Trump will hypothetically be worse or god forbid “unpredictable”

            I am more than comfortable throwing the democratic party in front of the Republican bus and buying the left time to properly organize without the disgusting kayfabe of the DNC splitting our movement, if the dems are serious about their opposition to Trump than they will be forced to split the establishment and weaken the imperial structure overall and if they’re just bullshitting and will happily go along with Trump’s fascism then the swathes of radicalized youth that will create will aid our movement too

            Either way that is far more strategic than making deranged ahistorical comparisons with the CPC’s relationship with the KMT during the Sino-Japanese War

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        35·
        2 years ago

        For the revleft participation in the system is endorsement of it.

        You can’t tell people to vote in one election and then tell people that actually it needs to be overthrown and think that’s going to happen 5 years later.

        At some point or another you just have to commit to it being broken and build your movement based entirely on the fact that it is broken and can not be supported in any way whatsoever.

        You are not convincing anyone that there is a need for revolution by telling them that actually there is a reason to participate in the system that you want revolution against. Maybe that passes among very well educated theory-heads but it does not work when you exit theory spaces and start talking to the masses.

        • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          Lenin disagreed.

          Participation in the system can be used as a tool to subvert the system in part by helping convince those who have yet to be convinced that a different system is needed.

          That’s not to say we should vote for Biden, just that there is usefulness in continuing to participate in these systems while also working to get rid of those we see as obsolete.

          • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            39·
            2 years ago

            Lenin did not advocate for voting for liberals. Lenin advocated for participation in the system as a means of platforming and spreading communist thought, not as a means of actually achieving anything because he knew very well it would not.

            His position would be vote for PSL or other communists.

            • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
              6·
              2 years ago

              I think I may not have been clear in my last comment.

              I agree and was not saying he advocated for voting for liberals. We should not be voting for Biden and I personally plan on voting for the PSL candidates at this time.

              My argument was with the “participation in bourgeois elections is an endorsement of those systems” part of the comment.

                • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                  5·
                  2 years ago

                  Essentially using the pretense of electoralism in order to actually strengthen the illegal party apparatus.

                  I thought that came across in my original comment?

                  My comments are pretty lazy and short here, so they won’t capture additional nuance, but he’s also saying (in the piece I linked) there are other benefits to participating in bourgeois elections that can help strengthen the party by helping fence-riders or those that haven’t been exposed to socialist rhetoric be convinced to join the party. This is in addition to other subversive actions.

                  If your sole political effort is participation in elections, that’s obviously endorsement of the existing system. Just in case, I was also not the person advocating for a vote for Democrats.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        32·
        2 years ago

        At least Biden still feel the need to pander to the LGBT community and other minorities, which means he can still be made to compromise on certain issues. With Trump it’s straight up fascism.

        I thought your point through all your posts here on Hexbear dot net is that Biden is a much more ruthless fascist than Trump.. Like you can’t say:

        With Trump it’s straight up fascism.

        and

        I mean no offense to the people who think that Trump is someone who can turn America into a full-blown white supremacist state, but they’re dead wrong. Without the ruthlessness of Biden, Trump could never get it off the ground in a million years.

        Which is it? So, with Trump the US is going to be a fascist but not full-blown white supremacist state while with Biden the US will be full-blown white supremacist but not fascist.

        Or is this just you doing a bit for your own amusement?

          • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            28·
            2 years ago

            So, your point is that it would be easier to do anti-imperialism under Biden than Trump, but if Biden is a much more ruthless imperialist than Trump, wouldn’t the greater ease of anti-imperialist action cancel out the greater ruthlessness of Biden? So functionally, there’s no real difference between Trump (harder to do anti-imperialist work but the chief imperialist is more incompetent) vs Biden (easier to do anti-imperialist work but the chief imperialist is more competent).

              • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                27·
                2 years ago

                I see. Here are my takes:

                1. Unless you live in a battleground state, arguing who should be president is an academic discussion. There’s basically zero difference between someone who isn’t a US citizen and someone who doesn’t live in Ohio and Georgia.

                2. The two parties are just a form of domestic counterinsurgency. Arguing that one is worse than the other is like arguing the good cop is better than the bad cop in a good cop-bad cop routine. In the end, neither parties really control what happens anyways. The national security state, as a “nonpartisan” entity, is what actually controls US politics. They are the means in which the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is enforced to use Marxist terms. US electoral politics is just kabuki theatre.

                3. Electoral figures are unable to meaningfully push back against the national security state. Sanders completely capitulated under the slightest of pressure. Someone like AOC is far worse given her incredibly sus background and should be considered as nothing more than an extension of the national security state. It’s very obvious AOC is being groomed to be the next Obama, and if she plays her cards right to the detriment of the rest of us, she’ll secure the presidency.

                4. Since fascist paramilitaries have been thoroughly infiltrated by the feds, they should be considered the covert branch of the national security state. This makes a “united front” with reactionary paramilitaries like the boogaloo boys completely counterproductive.

                5. Given that the national security state is the primary contradiction, if you’re just focused on what’s going on domestically in the US, every political action should understand this. Voting for either Trump or Biden makes little sense. Trump activated the national guard in 2020 while Biden gave massive funding to the police. Voting for who gets to be president is also pretty pointless since the national security state can always push the scale to get the candidate they want to be president. It’s no coincidence that the vast majority of 2-term presidents did what they’re told (the exception Nixon got hit with Watergate which prematurely ended his second term) and most president who are outsiders like JFK and Carter got 1 term.

                6. The way out is that the national security state has to be sufficiently weakened for both socialist and fascist forces to break free and seize political power. Personally, I think it will be sufficiently weakened through external means by foreign state actors. If there’s going to be a socialist revolution in the US, it’s going lean heavily towards without rather than within. Yes, the right way for revolutions is through within, but think of it like this. The path towards socialism for 1941 Germany was 99.99% without (ie the triumphant Red Army defeating the fascist Nazi hordes and marching through what remained of Berlin). Whatever happens once the US balkanizes is pure alt-history fantasy that is pointless to speculate, but I do believe balkanization has to happen before a socialist revolution. There will, of course, be a massive human cost and a risk of nuclear annihilation fro successor states trying to nuke each other, but those are the breaks.

                • bigboopballs [he/him]@hexbear.netBannedEnglish
                  4·
                  2 years ago

                  Personally, I think it will be sufficiently weakened through external means by foreign state actors.

                  why foreign state actors, rather than just collapsing by itself?

          • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            23·
            2 years ago

            And you are not going to win me over with the moralizing argument. I am biased by the history of the Chinese communist movement. The CPC had to collaborate with the KMT to fight against fascist Imperial Japan - the very same KMT that had just massacred 95% of the communist party cadres during the Long March. Do you know how fucking humiliating that is to the communists at the time? But Mao was built different, he could see the bigger picture, and knew how to steer the weak movement towards survival, and ultimately victory over the much stronger KMT. This was how we won, and why China is ruled by the Communist Party today. If you don’t know how to survive and play the long game, you won’t even make it past the infant stage because the capitalist class will instantly choke the infant to death in the cradle.

            Your argument falls apart because the KMT has already taken up arms against the IJA, proving that they refuse to be collaborators. And this is of course only the faction of the KMT led by Chiang Kai-Shek since the faction of the the KMT led by Wang Jingwei openly collaborated with the Japanese. If you want to say that the Democrats are like the KMT, then they are like the part of the KMT who were Japanese collaborators. Democrats and Republicans are part of the same government in the same way Japanese occupiers and Chinese collaborators were part of the same colonial government.

            An actual equivalent of the KMT who fought against the Japanese in the US context would be something like the Nation of Islam. The NOI are hardly socialist and have Malcolm X’s blood on their hands, but they also have pushed back against the national security state in a limited capacity. And they have their own paramilitary called the Fruit of Islam. This is why Kwame Ture always tried to build a united front between the NOI and other pan-Africanist groups. Various other lumpen groups like gangs could also have potential as unlikely allies in a united front.

      • D61 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        25·
        2 years ago

        I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies.

        If Biden was some feckless loser who just kept bumbling around the White House as a well meaning but ineffective in stopping the fascism the USA is based on/infected with, you’d probably be able to make a “critical support” argument to vote for Mr. Magoo to the Hexbear crowd. But this goes beyond anything that could justifiably be argued as “critical support”.

      • redladadriver [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        25·
        2 years ago

        Joe and the dems could pass a voting rights act to protect minority voting rights, just like they could protect abortion rights. What minority lives will they be protecting? They’re doing urban warfare centers in every major region, and libs are apparently very comfortable with whole sale slaughter of non white people. It’s looking more and more as if Genocide Joe is the more effective evil…

      • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        21·
        2 years ago

        I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies

        We are supposed to have a “representational democracy” where ‘elected’ officials represent the will of the people. Votes are consent. Consent is support. Holding your nose is consent. vote no matter who fear mongering is part of Manufacturing Consent.

        The ruling class doen’t need to give concessions knowing Manufactured Consent methods will keep them in power. They do not care if you consent gleefully or with distain. Consent is consent.

        Voting for Biden or Trump is to maintain consent for the establishment. Voting outside the establishment is a non consent vote. It doesn’t need to win, but a large enough faction where the Winston Smiths 1984 can’t fudge to hide such as the vote.

        They had to cover it. They had to factor it. Maybe not winning the war against…war but it embarassed the establishment. Clearly showing they do not represent us with their actions, and more importantly the World at large there is a reaistance movement to what bullshit our leaders are comitting. That not all amerikkka wants this and it wasn’t just “the Arab population” it was across the board and across demographics.

      • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        20·
        2 years ago

        Ok but we have to know if we have the numbers and we’re never going to know that if we vote for Democrats every year. Counting our numbers is critical and worth way more than voting for either fascist party.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        2 years ago

        Pretending to care about something does not mean he can be made to compromise on the issue, he and the dems will pretend to stand for something and then conveniently fail to pass or compromise away everything worthwhile until it’s exactly the bill Republicans would have wanted anyway

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
        18·
        2 years ago

        Every time a Democrat is elected without being held to task to follow through on a progressive platform, the Democratic party slips to the right. Hillary was always well to the right of Obama. Biden is well to the right of Hillary.

        What looks like “pandering”, if you examine it past the most superficial performative level, is a race to the bottom.

        In a swing state maybe it makes sense, but 75% of the population does not live in a swing state.

          • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            3·
            2 years ago

            Yeah I just noticed. It’s kinda wild how it’s moralizing to be against genocide, but apparently it’s not moralizing to use a misunderstanding of Maos collaboration nor is it moralizing when you mention fears of persecution of LGBTQ people (as if they aren’t already persecuted).
            Using these as a rhetorical cudgel is apparently not moralizing, it’s in fact materialist. Not wanting to support an ongoing genocide is moralizing.

      • idontpeoplegood@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        7·
        2 years ago

        With Trump it’s straight up fascism.

        It’s fascism with Biden. Which logo and slogan is on the merch won’t affect the genocidal nature of the empire.

        I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies.

        I mean that’s what a vote is.

          • abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            59·
            2 years ago

            Lol? This has to be bait and I can’t believe I’m gonna take it - but fuck it I’ve got time.

            I prefer America stop waging war all over the world resulting in millions of civilian casualties. Trump is the only President in decades who has delivered on not starting new wars.

            I mean, officially sure - but you seem to be forgetting that Trump literally boosted civilian causalities in Afghanistan by like 300% during his time in office and killed 700 Afghan civilians in 2019 with airstrikes alone, which only pales in comparison to the number of Afghan civilian deaths due to coalition airstrikes in 2001.

            What about Iraq & Syria? Airwars lists over 13k alleged civilian deaths during Trump’s term in office from US & coalition airstrikes.

            Does that mean nothing to you? I mean - yeah, Joe Biden has perpetuated the conflict in Gaza and is directly responsible as the figurehead of the US government for its support of Israel’s murder of 30k civilians, but he isn’t personally signing off on the airstrikes unlike Trump in Afghanistan.

            Not to mention the fact that Trump was the first President to use the GBU-43/B MOAB in an Afganistan airstrike - literally the most powerful non-nuclear bomb the US possesses.

            I haven’t even mentioned Yemen (86 civilians were killed in Trump authorized airstrikes/raids there between 2017-2018)

            If you prefer America stop waging war all over the world and bringing untold horror to the lives of innocent people - maybe don’t vote for Trump either??? I mean, I’m certainly not telling you to vote for Biden but it sounds like you’ve rationalized Trump as some sort of ‘salt of the earth populist who says nasty things’ rather than what he actually is - a bourgeoisie figurehead war-criminal beholden to their corporate lobbyists and political parties like every other President.

            Highly recommend you log off and turn off any televisions or other electronics & go outside and get some sunlight for at least 3 hours - you’ll probably realize how dumb your comment is after you’ve gotten some vitamin d in your system! stalin-approval

            • Greenleaf [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              8·
              2 years ago

              and killed 700 Afghan civilians in 2019 with airstrikes alone

              A fun fact people here might enjoy… Americans have been deeply propagandized for decades about the Berlin Wall. My niece just entered high school, and in their section on the Cold War, the only thing they learned about the GDR was “Berlin Wall scary and bad”.

              700 civilian deaths from air strikes in Afghanistan in a single year is precisely five times as many people who were killed climbing the wall in total in the four decades of its existence.

          • Torenico [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            50·
            2 years ago

            Brother, Trump put the entire world at risk of a huge war when he decided to kill Soleimani because reasons, tf are you talking about?

          • Beaver [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            44·
            2 years ago

            Bait. The idea that Trump is a dove candidate is just ignoring how much he expanded military operations and drone killings worldwide. He was just politically savvy enough to understand that you just have to be quiet about it, and then voters will just give you a pass. The Dems are also bloodthirsty, but just dumb enough to do it out in the open during an election year for a cause that is unpopular.

          • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            34·
            2 years ago

            is-this bait Trump only did these things because he’s incredibly incompetent and even then he still managed to put us at the brink of nuclear conflict several times. Biden sucks ass and balls and does not deserve a vote, but that does not make trump good by any stretch.
            By voting for him you endorse his actions. If you endorse trump, you’re an idiot

              • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                31·
                2 years ago

                Iran has nukes. Trump bonked their guy and the only reason things didn’t escalate is because Iran isn’t as psychotic.

                Before meeting with kim-drip-too-hard and changing his mind (like so many times before) he was discussing nuking the DPRK, not to mention how he escalated tensions.

                The trade war with China certainly didn’t make things less tense.

                He’s incompetent and a buffoon and that’s a good thing because he’s also a wannabe imperialist, he just lacks patience to do anything. He still almost succeeded in installing guaido as an “interim” puppet in Venezuela.

                Is biden just as bad or worse? Yeah I think so, but that doesn’t suddenly make trump any less demented.

                • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  8·
                  2 years ago

                  I don’t believe there was a chance at all of Guaido ever becoming official president. All that really happened were a bunch of western countries started saying he was the real president. when that didn’t work the US sent mercenaries that promptly fucked up and got caught by Venezuelan fisherman because at this point I think the South America division of American intelligence is high on their own supply. They think the people of South America want imperialist installed dictators and will revolt once prompted. Turns out the Venezuelan people aren’t morons

          • DyingOfDeBordom [none/use name]@hexbear.netBannedEnglish
            34·
            2 years ago

            yea you’re a fucking moron who thinks the right wing of the bourgeoisie is gonna help you any more than the left wing does. Let’s just forget how rabid the Republicans are for war with China and Iran b/c you think your big wet boy isn’t a sociopath, just like the blueMAGAs think about theirs

              • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
                18·
                2 years ago

                Lol, there is no political schism you dumb fuck. There is a rhetorical and presentation schism, but the Trump admin looked like your bog-standard Republican admin, just abit more dysfunctional internally, no matter how hysterical the Democrats were about it.

    • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      44·
      2 years ago

      According to some in here (even hexbears?!? blech), the genocide perpetrator you know is always better than the one you don’t, so yeah, you’d better vote for the one you already know is committing a genocide to reduce harm. That’s just facts and logic. shapiro-poplar

  • istanbullu@lemmy.mlEnglish
    60·
    2 years ago

    Joe Biden will be remembered in the future as the enabler of the Palestinian genocide

    • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      48·
      2 years ago

      I’m not sure where the lines are in these definitions, or how much the difference really matters but I’m hoping he will be remembered not just as an enabler but as a direct accomplice, which he is. He could have chosen to stop it at any point, instead he has goaded it on and knowingly, unhesitatingly provided the material means to perpetrate it.

      • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        If any of them were in charge today, not much would be different. The logic of the empire does not change depending on who rules it.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
    57·
    2 years ago

    More than enough ordnance to destroy Rafah and kill tens of thousands, any vote or support for this monster is active direct support for genocide and should be treated accordingly

  • SteamedHamberder [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    46·
    2 years ago

    For precision humanitarian strikes.

    I remember reading The IOF dropped more bombs on Gaza in the first week than the US dropped on Afghanistan in their entire occupation. Are there recent figures on the scale of the destruction? I mean, what could be left?

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    46·
    2 years ago

    not even like support equipment or air defense missiles or whatever that they could at least pretend would have a “defensive purpose”

    fking bombs and jets