Not quite. I think if I walk in one more pride parade I get a free frozen yogurt. But I’ve made my choices and locked in to mostly at this point.

Why? You taking a poll?

Don’t threaten me with a good time!

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I picked 2016 arbitrarily, but for what it’s worth, you know why I selfhost and de-Googled my life.

Honest question: have you ever talked with a therapist or counselor about your past and anger? Not saying your anger isn’t warranted or valid. Not at all. But anger can be a drug and a boost and a survival tool until it turns you into a survival tool for itself.

Mine is Balsamic Childfree.

This stage is only big enough for one of us, BT!

No shit. This post is instructions on how to get an Executive Order named after you.

I’m aware of that, but at some point it’s also like when the Ming Dynasty destroyed their naval fleet for political reasons. They still needed a normal navy for even local maritime trade. They killed it all and caused (in a reductive sense) a 200 year depression.

We still need data centers for literally a million things that aren’t LLMs. And personally, I’m 100% on board to shoot that LLM shit into orbit. Get your solar from the source and fuck off.

Thanks for the message. I don’t feel bad that other people have no idea how their own lives work. It’s kind of sad to some degree, but how many people know how their car engine or phone work? Relatively few.

Personally, it’s just crazy how MAGA-like it all is, the emotional groupthink.

LOL, sorry, my phone is stupid. “Theor” is actually “their.” I edited above.

I think you meant to say that to the absolute anti-data center person, not me. I’m trying to explain that not all data centers are for LLMs and therefore killing the planet at hyperspeed.

Yeah, and Monterey Park was 100% right for what they did. Any developer thinking they can “hide” a data center worth building in a suburb is insane.

Look, let’s start at the source. The measure in a small, dense suburbia town was to ban “data centers.” All of them. All kinds, all types.

https://ballotpedia.org/Monterey_Park,_California,_Measure_NDC,_Prohibit_Data_Centers_Measure_(June_2026)

I’ve been to Monterey Park several times. It’s nice. But it’s just LA suburbia. Very rational to expect problems from any building being turned into a data center to be right up on top of mostly residential areas.

So, now you’re talking about not just making a leap as to what the commenter meant, but also that they were taking about something else because they were misinformed.

I get not wanting LLM only data centers. I agree. Put those fuckers in orbit as far as I’m concerned. I actually love that idea. But data centers have been necessary utilities for decades. They’re not new. They’re not innovative. They let you organize online. They let you call you granny. They show you cat videos. They save lives, and other than very recent LLM needs did more good than harm in the grand scheme of things.

I’m asking you to just understand that the thing you’ve only just heard about it used for lots of things, and has been around for years.

Yeah, that’s not the same.

But so it sounds like you’re full on anti-technology and anti-internet. I would genuinely love to know how you arrived at that decision. My Mom is sort of the same way, so it’s intriguing to me how non-MAGA folks reach the same point.

But you do realize that un-innovative, plain old data centers not for bots and AI are a thing, right?

You literally can’t throw your opinion at me without them.

lol, I see I struck a cord ;)

Tell me how many data centers existed in the world in 2016. Then tell me how many ran LLMs. Then if you give me a pie chart of what those 2016 data centers were used for, I might mail you a cherry pie. (warning, it will get smashed and gross and spoil before it gets to you)

Fun fact: data centers existed and were incredibly important pieces of digital infrastructure long before LLMs were publicly available. You don’t even know what a data center does apparently.

Nor do you realize that my comment isn’t about the virtues of data centers or what happens in them, but rather, having a massively under-informed opinion based largely on emotions. Hate for the sake of hate. That’s what MAGA people do. You’re really doing to double down and tell me that “oh, well, not me, I’m not like that” with a straight face?

Downvote all you like, it doesn’t make your heart kind, or your mind work better.

Hate for hate’s sake.

Certainly a lovely way to live life. /s

A villain defined by equally flat minions, trying and failing to kill a child for Jump The Shark reasons.

So the 280-300 in the state currently that do nice things like let the internet happen, let 911 calls go through, allow universities do research on diseases, hold cancer patient records, and show California residents Lemmy should…what? Go away?

An absolutist view of anything is typically a terrible idea. You don’t even know which very specific class of large data center you are “against.”

It’s the theoretical physics term for barriers in string theory. Shortened version of membrane. So, AFAIK, in that theory, our universe exists on one brane, but dark matter and dark energy would exist in another one, but their gravity leaks through because gravity is funny like that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brane