Training is a continuous expenditure. We’re nearly ten years into this craze and we’re still continuously pumping out new models. Whether they’re trained from scratch or not is immaterial. Both processes still consume energy. If you want to justify the claim that training cost is negligible, you would have to show that this cost is actually going down over time and that it’s going down sufficiently quickly.
It doesn’t look like that energy consumption blog post account for the cost of training the model. Otherwise, it should be telling us how many queries/sessions are assumed to be run over the course of the lifetime of a model.
If it’s a liar that lies every time or most of the time, then yeah, don’t bother.
why […] am I asking it questions?
I can’t actually think of any specific scenario where something is unimportant enough to not matter but important enough that you’d ask. What I was originally thinking of were actually scenarios where I planned to verify the information at a later time, but I mistook that in my head as not verifying it.
Obviously, don’t rely on them to read important emails for you. But so many things don’t need additional checking. We’ve all done at least a decade of schooling. We all know basic math, science, and history. When we forget things, all it takes is a small reminder to get it back. Our brains are capable of recognizing whether we’ve seen something before or not. We’re also capable of reasoning to determine whether something we read is consistent with everything else we know.
So many other things are also so unimportant that it doesn’t matter at all if you’re wrong. For example, some actor looks familiar, it lies to you about what film they were in, and you believe it. Is your life any worse off for it?
Do you not cross reference multiple archived news articles and seek out past attendees to remind yourself of what Britney Spears wore at her last concert? smh
I like to keep to the same routine when possible. Birthdays and holidays interrupt that. No good. I can’t do much for holidays, but since my birthday is supposed to be my day, i can demand this from everyone around me.
I’m pretty sure OP is making chili to eat, not for a competition.
Our local Costco has these. They’re the previous day’s chicken and are sold at a discount.
TIL oil barrels are held together by giant Phillips head screws.
Definitely. For the average home cook, that convenience is much more valuable than making your knives extra sharp.
Do the diamond stones need any kind of maintenance? I’ve read that you need to regularly flatten the surface of your typical whetstone.
Yeah, that much I agree with.
“They want people like me to not exist” is not a “general stance.”
No, that is not a general statement. “Someone that wants some group of people to not exist” is the general statement, and I belong to some group of people. Anything that applies to the general statement also applies to the specific one. I’m not about to list all groups of people in existence, but if you want to play the game where you name someone and I tell you whether or not the rule applies, I’m happy to play along.
Do you mean lemmyers? People with usernames that start with H?
Yes to all of the above, as long as they don’t infringe on anyone else’s right to live.
Don’t pretend that because you’re trying to conflate this with math that you’re somehow correct or logical.
Logic is math. Do you disagree with the comparison?
I’m speaking in generalities because it’s a very general stance.
What you’re doing is the equivalent of going to someone who says x+x=2x and and claiming they must not know what they’re saying because they’re not telling you what exact value x is.
You generally learn of people’s opinions when they tell you their opinions. Not that this is relevant in this discussion. The point is that targeting people who hold such opinions is what it means to “treat the symptoms” in this context. Figuring out who holds such opinions is a different matter.
How is my exact identity relevant? Do you think it’s more acceptable to get rid of one group of people versus another? As long as they don’t infringe on other people’s right to live, everyone should have an equal right to live their life.
I don’t know how much clearer that can be. Their opinion is that I shouldn’t exist. Or that I should die. Or that we should move towards a world where people like me don’t exist.
I don’t see what my identity has to do with this. Whether I’m a cis-het white male or bipoc gay trans, those opinions are equally problematic.
This keeps happening on Lemmy. What front end did you use to post this comment?
Specifically those who disagree with my right to live. If you disagree on any other front, there’s no reason for violence.
You know what else takes far less energy than training a single model? One query. Yet, you argue that it’s the main contributor to the energy consumption. Why is that? It’s because there’s a very high volume of them, thus bringing up the total energy consumption. At the end of the day, it’s this total energy consumption that matters, not the cost of doing it once. Look at the total energy expenditure of training, not just the cost of doing it once.
We’re talking about AI here because that’s the topic of this thread. I’ve never seen anyone say that it’s the only problem worth addressing. Plus, if you want to compare energy usage of ads (or anything else) compared to AI, you would first need to know how much energy AI is actually using.