• @Miclux@lemmings.world
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    -19 months ago

    Utter bullshit. It’s not about driving from a to be.

    Have you ever brought your old and ill grandparent to a doctors appointment 20kms away when he can’t hold it anymore - via train/bus? Have you ever took your grandma to the grocery shop via train/bus? Have you ever get home as fast as possible because of a accident at home? Have you ever done anything outside of a big city?!

    • @utopiah@lemmy.ml
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      19 months ago

      anything outside of a big city?!

      The photos OP is sharing are depicting 10 or more lanes. That’s precisely about a big city. Meanwhile the situation you describe, e.g doctor 20km away, no train/bus access, seems to be about not a big city. I believe you two are not talking about the same problem even though both are valid.

    • People who advocate for better public transportation usually also advocate for walkable neighborhoods. Your grandparents would not need a car to go to grocery, it’ll be at a walking distance. Same for doctors.

      As for emergencies, yes, a car would be nice. But you can always get a can in that situation. No need to destroy the planet every other day.

      Let me ask you this, have you ever done anything outside of a car only dystopia?

    • Neato
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      09 months ago

      In places designed before/not for cars you’d have places within walking distance like groceries. In the doctor scenario, we’ve had adult diapers for a long time. Your solution is you let them pee in your car?

      • @s20@lemmy.ml
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        19 months ago

        In the doctor scenario, we’ve had adult diapers for a long time. Your solution is you let them pee in your car?

        And your solution is they shit themselves on public transportation?

        I mean, I’m 100% for better public transportation and urban centers designed around walking, but let’s compare apples to apples here.

        They didn’t make a straw man argument, they had a point. It’s a genuine issue and they deserve better than a flippant remark telling them to make grandpa wear diapers so he can piss himself on his walk from the bus stop.

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          -19 months ago

          And your solution is they shit themselves on public transportation?

          Do you not understand how incontinence works? Someone who can’t hold their bowels or bladder wears diapers, full-stop. Sometimes this is due to an underlying issue that can be fixed, sometimes not. In either case the person has to wear adult diapers at least some of the time.

          I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make. This person will be wearing diapers regardless of their transport. But you seem to disagree if they are being driven in a car. Therefore, would you allow an incontinent person to not wear diapers in your car, where they may have an accident?