Summary

Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

  • @wall_panel_96@lemmy.world
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    -1054 months ago

    Oh shit. I just got here. I see Lemmy is dangerously woke too. Wishing someone to die is rather nasty. I do agree putting that on tv was stupid, world leaders should do all their negotiating (bickering) behind closed doors.

    • @jalkasieni@sopuli.xyz
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      454 months ago

      Not addressing the rest of the comment, but ”world leaders should discuss everything behind closed doors” is a dangerously shortsighted take. You do realize their job is to represent you, right? How do you think you can verify they are doing that if you are not allowed to see and hear what’s being said?

      • @wall_panel_96@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        I mean, given this is the first time in history two world leaders have negotiated a peace treaty on live tv, yeah. That is not a good idea. They need to feel Free to argue and debate for hours without worrying about pride and pr in front of millions of people. But if you are saying transparency and showing every action on tv by presidents etc is good, then are you pro Donald trump? Because no previous president has been this transparent.

        • @goldfndr@lemmy.ml
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          84 months ago

          After Musk testifies before House or Senate under oath, your transparency claims might become valid. Until then…

        • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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          74 months ago

          Well, it definitely isn’t a good idea if you’re Trump. I would love to know how Zelenskyy managed to get that kind of a meeting.

          What am I saying? He probably just asked. “Hey, I would love to discuss this deal over our very valuable minerals. Let’s invite the newsmedia and record the whole thing, so everybody can see what an awesome negotiator you are!” Pretty easy to win a battle of wits when your opponent is unarmed.

    • @truthfultemporarily@feddit.org
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      324 months ago

      I someone blows up a thousand people themselves they are a murderer and its socially acceptable to want them punished. If someone causes thousands of deaths in politics or business we should somehow respect it?

      Hoping someone dies is the last thing left after morality is already dead.

      • @wall_panel_96@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        I’m not sure what you are stating. I have watched ‘all quiet on the western front’ and remember being sickened by the bigwigs procrastinating over the peace treaty while every second people were dying. Great movie by the way. War fkn sucks.

        • @webadict@lemmy.world
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          184 months ago

          Russia started the war in Ukraine, so it seems like it is entirely Russia’s fault and Russia should end it, no?

    • @zooi@feddit.nl
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      244 months ago

      Man life must be so fucking easy for you to never feel threatened by politicians. It’s all just a big TV show in your eyes isn’t it?

    • @merdaverse@lemmy.world
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      124 months ago

      It was put on TV on purpose to make Zelensky look weak and make the US look strong (it’s called propaganda) and so daddy Vlad can see that Trump is a good boy.

      I can happily confirm that the woke mind virus is alive and well on Lemmy.

      • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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        34 months ago

        You’re half right. It was put on TV to make Zelenskyy look good and for Trump and Vance to look like fools, and they played right into it.

      • @wall_panel_96@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        It didn’t work very well, if anything it made zelensky look human, JD look like a prick, and trump look like… trump? I like what trump and co have done so far to fix the mess of woke and corruption, but even I didn’t like trump or JD after watching this. If they really were trying to do as you say, they failed. Big time.

    • @shaserlark@sh.itjust.works
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      -64 months ago

      We are woke and bang hot liberal chicks. You are an incel and masturbate to anime and the fantasy of having a tradwife, a fantasy that will never materialize. We are not the same.