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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myotragus

  • @Findus_Falke@feddit.org
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    215•14 days ago

    so, it’s a predator goat.

    • @protist@mander.xyz
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      78•14 days ago

      I’m going to guess as an island species, it had no natural predators, and therefore the evolutionary pressure for it to have a wide field of view did not exist

      • @fristislurper@feddit.nl
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        24•14 days ago

        Probably, although there would still need to be some evolutionary pressure for forward facing eyes… I wonder what it is.

        • @AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee
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          Depth perception is advantageous. It is even beneficial for island goat activities.

          With the absence of natural predators, the disadvantages of the narrow field of view are mostly outweighed by the advantages of depth perception .

          • scratsearcher 🔍🔮📊🎲
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            2•3 days ago

            beneficial for island goat activities

            lmao, “island goat activities” is the best 3 word combination. Here are thoughts what island goat activities are:

            1. Scavenging for food
            2. estimating mountain height for rock climbing
            3. chasing away competitors
        • @abies_exarchia@lemm.ee
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          33•14 days ago

          Not necessarily, with “genetic drift” random phenotypic changes can happen that have a neutral effect on fitness. So if they don’t need side-facing eyes, then this can just happen randomly. Especially if the sideways eyes are in some way “costly” to maintain

          • @kurwa@lemmy.world
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            13•14 days ago

            If sideways eyes are “costly” compared to forward facing eyes, then that would technically be a push for forward facing.

            • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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              27•14 days ago

              Or goats just find forward facing eyes to be sexier.

              • swab148
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                7•14 days ago

                I know I do

                • AFK BRB Chocolate
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              • @Bear_pile@lemm.ee
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                5•14 days ago

                There was an interesting study done with zebra finches. In it they glued fake mohawkes on males and found that females selected them over unaltered males, even though it didn’t naturally occur in the species. So there is some precedence for the possibility that the forward facing eyes were simply “sexier”.

                • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  4•14 days ago

                  I mean you can do a smoldering sexy look at someone if your eyes face sideways. Makes total sense.

            • @stephen01king@lemmy.zip
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              1•14 days ago

              Depth perception.

              • @kurwa@lemmy.world
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                2•14 days ago

                Derception.

                • @OrteilGenou@lemmy.world
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                  2•13 days ago

                  Derpception

          • @BleatingZombie@lemmy.world
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            3•14 days ago

            I’ve always wondered if there was a term for evolutionary changes that weren’t needed!

        • @wischi@programming.dev
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          6•14 days ago

          I’m not sure for that specific case, but in the general case there doesn’t need to be evolutionary pressure for change. If there is no pressure one way or the other random mutations can (and will over time) cause change without environmental reason (genetic drift).

        • @Num10ck@lemmy.world
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          4•14 days ago

          maybe living in caves?

      • @Reddfugee42@lemmy.world
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        11•14 days ago

        Curious to consider that by being an apex consumer, it is a predator by default, even if its prey is flora.

      • @pjwestin@lemmy.world
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        5•14 days ago

        I mean, it it has pupils like that, it has a wide field of vision. That’s the whole point of rectangular pupils. I would assume that having front-facing eyes would also give it depth perception, but maybe it needed that for making difficult jumps or something?

    • @Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      36•14 days ago

      It DOES seem menacing

    • Tippon
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      9•14 days ago

      ‘There’s something out there waiting for us, and it ain’t no man’

      • @Agent641@lemmy.world
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        8•14 days ago

        “If it bleats, we can kill it.”

      • @WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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        5•14 days ago

        https://youtu.be/qlicWUDf5MM

        • Tippon
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          3•14 days ago

          That might just be the best thing on the internet :D

        • @Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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          2•14 days ago

          I can’t believe I’ve never seen this before! This was fantastic!

      • @D_C@lemm.ee
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        3•14 days ago

        “I’m scared, Poncho”

    • @I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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      1•14 days ago

      Eater Goats…

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