• @bloup@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I definitely don’t have it all figured out, but I wanna know do you ever think about stuff like what it took for the civil rights movement of the 1960s to succeed? Do you think it was a matter of pandering to the interests of centrist liberals or do you think that a big part of it was criticizing status quo liberalism and refusing to settle? I really think that you should read theletter from Birmingham jail by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. because the archetype that he addresses in that work is replayed out every single time somebody ever deigns to criticize the Democrats for their political strategy.

    • The civil rights movement required a lot of people to go out and protest and do a lot. And in the “end” (i personally don’t think it is even over) the elected representatives VOTED for the civil rights act. But right now, people don’t vote because they don’t have their perfect candidate.

      NOBODY is saying “don’t protest”, “don’t resist”, “don’t get out there and make a difference.” Hell i’ll join you, but GO FUCKING VOTE. Because if you don’t then only the people who vote have a voice.

      In 2000 Al Gore ran on a platform to stronger focus on environmental protection, healthcare reform, and that he would “fight for the people, not the powerful.” He lost. After Obama we Voted for fucking Trump.

      For the past 30 years Democrats move left and people don’t show up to vote. They didn’t vote for Gore, Hilary or Kamala instead they voted for the right. That is what America voted for. So that’s what we’re getting.

      • @Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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        The fuck are you talking about? They did show up for Gore. He won the popular vote. The only reason Bush won was due to the electoral college flipping the vote. Gore’s election was stolen from him.

        Democrats have not been moving left. They have consistently been moving further and further right since post-WW2 and McCarthyism completely demolished any legitimate left wing politics in this country. Meanwhile the voting population became more and more disenfranchised by the fucked up system we live under.

        • Between Nader and voters who didn’t turn out, it should have been a no-doubt winner. The game is set up a certain way, and unless you win elections, you can’t change the rules. Rs keep winning and they keep rigging it towards them. With almost 50% of eligible voters sitting out, only those who are playing get to win. If you’re suggesting revolution, we may get there someday, but I don’t think we’re there yet.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election

          • NSRXN
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            gore won in Florida, too. the supreme Court stole the election for Bush.