And also I’m correct, every election is like groundhogs day, like being trapped in a time loop, where leftists go:
“The lesser of two evils is still evil, I’m going to keep my hands clean”.
“Voting doesn’t work, because you can’t fix an inherently flawed system from within the system.”
“Voting is just part of the system of oppression by keeping people complacent from making real changes.”
In my memory this anti-voting/vote boycotting goes back at least to 2000 Bush/Gore.
Now let’s say I’m completely wrong, let’s say I’m crazy and I just made that all up in my head. Let’s say that leftists have always been enthusiastic participators in American democracy, and 2024 was the first ever leftist election boycott.
Now from 2025 to 2028, is the overton window moving left, or right? Will the 2028 election be to the left of 2024, or will 2028 be to the right of 2024?
I’m dead serious willing to bet $500 that 2028 will be to the right of 2024. The overton window is still moving right.
So did my original statement even matter? Either way leftist election boycotts are moving the overton window right, whether it started in 2000, or 2024.
The only question is, how many election boycotts have to fail at doing what leftists want until leftists suddenly become aware they are poking the stick in their own bicycle wheel?
Yes… and you have decided to blame leftists for this instead of the political racketeers who invented and maintains this cyclical pseudo-democratic spectacle itself.
How liberal of you… you, a (supposed) “anti-capitalist.”
You can’t be a liberal and an anti-capitalist, Clyde - you have to decide which you’re going to be.
“Voting doesn’t work, because you can’t fix an inherently flawed system from within the system.”
And they are correct.
“Voting is just part of the system of oppression by keeping people complacent from making real changes.”
And they are still correct.
In my memory this anti-voting/vote boycotting goes back at least to 2000 Bush/Gore.
Nope. It was a thing long before the Russian Revolution, genius - it’s only you liberals that are now finding out how utterly hollow your “liberal democracy” truly is and always have been. Leftists have known that before Marx or Bakunin even went through puberty.
You kinda crashed out and lost the plot, you were claiming that leftists were doing lots of voting up until 2024, but you just confirmed my whole point that leftists did not vote.
Not a liberal. But it’s to be expected that the most productive dialog we can get out of someone like you is regurgitation of more labels and thought terminating cliches.
The void of inaction you have to offer the world is more empty phrases and faux anger. Keep at it. Things will change for better with or without you. The universe keeps moving on regardless of how much you choose to participate in it. You can contribute to building something or just sit here behind a keyboard sniffing your farts. You only get one life to live.
If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck… and all that. You’re a liberal.
most productive dialog
You offer nothing except business as usual, liberal. And you can’t stand it when actual leftists tell you to shove it where the sun don’t shine.
Blah, blah,blah…
Don’t be angry at me, liberal. Your ideology were unmasked a long, long time ago - as far back as Malcolm X, in fact:
“The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative.” - Malcolm X
Don’t be angry at me because you are that which you are.
All you can contribute is name calling people liberals just for daring to ask the left to become more politically effective
Thats all I asked for. I want the goal of the left to become reality. That’s it. In order to do that, we have to be politically effective. If you have another strategy I’m all ears. What do you want? The revolution? Let’s go, man. I’m right behind you! Let’s do this. How do you want to get any of the lefts goals accomplished? Give me a roadmap. Anything. I’m 39. I’ve heard you guys yap about liberalism and fascism for over a dozen years and nothing, I mean nothing in terms of practical accomplishments. So give it to me, man. I’m all ears.
You have done nothing here except that which liberals have always done… attempting to co-opt leftists into helping you protect your precious status quo.
And you’re getting pretty darn desperate about it, too.
Does it perhaps have anything to do with the fact that your precious liberal order was caught with it’s hand in the genocide cookie jar and is now sinking faster than the Titanic, perhaps?
I’m not a liberal, I’m anti-capitalist.
And also I’m correct, every election is like groundhogs day, like being trapped in a time loop, where leftists go:
“The lesser of two evils is still evil, I’m going to keep my hands clean”.
“Voting doesn’t work, because you can’t fix an inherently flawed system from within the system.”
“Voting is just part of the system of oppression by keeping people complacent from making real changes.”
In my memory this anti-voting/vote boycotting goes back at least to 2000 Bush/Gore.
Now let’s say I’m completely wrong, let’s say I’m crazy and I just made that all up in my head. Let’s say that leftists have always been enthusiastic participators in American democracy, and 2024 was the first ever leftist election boycott.
Now from 2025 to 2028, is the overton window moving left, or right? Will the 2028 election be to the left of 2024, or will 2028 be to the right of 2024?
I’m dead serious willing to bet $500 that 2028 will be to the right of 2024. The overton window is still moving right.
So did my original statement even matter? Either way leftist election boycotts are moving the overton window right, whether it started in 2000, or 2024.
The only question is, how many election boycotts have to fail at doing what leftists want until leftists suddenly become aware they are poking the stick in their own bicycle wheel?
Yes… and you have decided to blame leftists for this instead of the political racketeers who invented and maintains this cyclical pseudo-democratic spectacle itself.
How liberal of you… you, a (supposed) “anti-capitalist.”
You can’t be a liberal and an anti-capitalist, Clyde - you have to decide which you’re going to be.
And they are correct.
And they are still correct.
Nope. It was a thing long before the Russian Revolution, genius - it’s only you liberals that are now finding out how utterly hollow your “liberal democracy” truly is and always have been. Leftists have known that before Marx or Bakunin even went through puberty.
Yes. Let’s.
You kinda crashed out and lost the plot, you were claiming that leftists were doing lots of voting up until 2024, but you just confirmed my whole point that leftists did not vote.
Is that your excuse for blaming leftists instead of the political racketeers who got you into this situation in the first place?
Try harder.
Man you love the sound of your voice. I’m getting you sniff your farts vibe
Lol! Do you liberals ever stop projecting?
Not a liberal. But it’s to be expected that the most productive dialog we can get out of someone like you is regurgitation of more labels and thought terminating cliches.
The void of inaction you have to offer the world is more empty phrases and faux anger. Keep at it. Things will change for better with or without you. The universe keeps moving on regardless of how much you choose to participate in it. You can contribute to building something or just sit here behind a keyboard sniffing your farts. You only get one life to live.
If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck… and all that. You’re a liberal.
You offer nothing except business as usual, liberal. And you can’t stand it when actual leftists tell you to shove it where the sun don’t shine.
Don’t be angry at me, liberal. Your ideology were unmasked a long, long time ago - as far back as Malcolm X, in fact:
“The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative.” - Malcolm X
Don’t be angry at me because you are that which you are.
All you can contribute is name calling people liberals just for daring to ask the left to become more politically effective
Thats all I asked for. I want the goal of the left to become reality. That’s it. In order to do that, we have to be politically effective. If you have another strategy I’m all ears. What do you want? The revolution? Let’s go, man. I’m right behind you! Let’s do this. How do you want to get any of the lefts goals accomplished? Give me a roadmap. Anything. I’m 39. I’ve heard you guys yap about liberalism and fascism for over a dozen years and nothing, I mean nothing in terms of practical accomplishments. So give it to me, man. I’m all ears.
You have done nothing here except that which liberals have always done… attempting to co-opt leftists into helping you protect your precious status quo.
And you’re getting pretty darn desperate about it, too.
Does it perhaps have anything to do with the fact that your precious liberal order was caught with it’s hand in the genocide cookie jar and is now sinking faster than the Titanic, perhaps?
I notice you never answer or engage with anythitg I write. Why don’t you?