• @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      16 hours ago

      Computers are better at logic than brains are. We emulate logic; they do it natively.

      It just so happens there’s no logical algorithm for “reasoning” a problem through.

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      1813 hours ago

      That’s not really a valid argument for why, but yes the models which use training data to assemble statistical models are all bullshitting. TBH idk how people can convince themselves otherwise.

      • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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        06 hours ago

        They aren’t bullshitting because the training data is based on reality. Reality bleeds through the training data into the model. The model is a reflection of reality.

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          An approximation of a very small limited subset of reality with more than a 1 in 20 error rate who produces massive amounts of tokens in quick succession is a shit representation of reality which is in every way inferior to human accounts to the point of being unusable for the industries in which they are promoted.

          And that Error Rate can only spike when the training data contains errors itself, which will only grow as it samples its own content.

      • Encrypt-Keeper
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        1412 hours ago

        TBH idk how people can convince themselves otherwise.

        They don’t convince themselves. They’re convinced by the multi billion dollar corporations pouring unholy amounts of money into not only the development of AI, but its marketing. Marketing designed to not only convince them that AI is something it’s not, but also that that anyone who says otherwise (like you) are just luddites who are going to be “left behind”.

        • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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          410 hours ago

          It’s no surprise to me that the person at work who is most excited by AI, is the same person who is most likely to be replaced by it.

          • Encrypt-Keeper
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            210 hours ago

            Yeah the excitement comes from the fact that they’re thinking of replacing themselves and keeping the money. They don’t get to “Step 2” in theirs heads lmao.

      • @turmacar@lemmy.world
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        I think because it’s language.

        There’s a famous quote from Charles Babbage when he presented his difference engine (gear based calculator) and someone asking “if you put in the wrong figures, will the correct ones be output” and Babbage not understanding how someone can so thoroughly misunderstand that the machine is, just a machine.

        People are people, the main thing that’s changed since the Cuneiform copper customer complaint is our materials science and networking ability. Most things that people interact with every day, most people just assume work like it appears to on the surface.

        And nothing other than a person can do math problems or talk back to you. So people assume that means intelligence.

        • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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          912 hours ago

          I often feel like I’m surrounded by idiots, but even I can’t begin to imagine what it must have felt like to be Charles Babbage explaining computers to people in 1840.