• veloxy@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    What is with everyone’s obsession, government or company, to moderate the web. It’s seriously depressing and exhausting.

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      2 years ago

      Companies it’s because they want to be the ones serving you all the information and data and all the privileges that comes with like add profits, etc.

      Governments because a huge global tool for information sharing, economics, etc grew under their noses for the last three decades and they ignored it until it was almost out of their control and are now panicking to try and grasp some back.

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      2 years ago

      for real. it’s been extremely disconcerting watching both companies and nations erode and distort privacy norms so blatantly in the past few years. i’ve never really been a paranoid person, but it’s starting to feel like a coordinated effort to cut the metaphorical brakes so that when we approach the next digital privacy rights crossroad, we are completely unable to exert any control over the direction that society moves.

      it used to be that i would hear about an attack on digital privacy once every year. now it seems to happen almost daily. it’s exhausting and worrying all at once.

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        it used to be that i would hear about an attack on digital privacy once every year. now it seems to happen almost daily.

        It could be that you’ve become more informed lately.

        I feel like the situation has been deteriorating at a relatively steady pace for at least a decade, if not two.

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          oh i’m sure it is, and that’s what i think is so insidious about it. the tactics we’re seeing emerge appear to be carefully engineered so as to disproportionately exhaust those who care the most about preserving privacy so we just pack up and leave the platforms for them to ravage.

          the average person who hears about proposed “web integrity” protections is going to think nothing of it and do nothing about it, then paint you as a conspiracy theorist for being as concerned as you are. i remember preaching to people about SOPA years ago, and was met with a resounding “meh”. they want the watchdogs specifically to leave their platforms, so that there is no one left to sound the alarms for everyone else.

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    2 years ago

    this is like preventing your car from driving you to the bank so you cant rob it

  • nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    Senile boomers try to do impossible things in tech because stupid. Censorship is stupid, Google and French goverment hand in hand trying to destroy the free and open internet.

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      2 years ago

      This is too technical to incite the mass. Chances rely on parliament opposition and anti-constitutionality.

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    2 years ago

    Do they have this saying in France: “Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater” ? These days, everyone seems so intent on breaking what we have that at the end I’m not sure what we’re going to have left.

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        Knowing how Frensh people just like to be disruptive and annoying i can see at least some liking it for exactly that reason.

        But yes fuck the French government.

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          “Disruptive and annoying” is a tad vague.

          Macron didn’t listen to 2 months of strikes and protests ; I’m not sure he will listen to an online petition. This is really depressing.

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            2 years ago

            Left + some tech aware right + extreme right who just like to oppose anything that is not xenophobic enough can block it at the parliament.

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    If i was a hacker, i would penetrate their system ( shouldn’t be that hard as most if their operating system are old, and supervised by even older persons and methods), deface their website to inform the population, and ask to take back their ideas as a ransom for not divulging some weird shit they must have on their computers.

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      What you are describing is a serious crime, and for good reasons. It might be true that finding a way to do this is possible, but if exploited, that action could have very serious consequences.

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        Sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Time ago people fought and die for our rights and our liberty. It’s even in our national motto. Now seeing all of these stripped little by little, seeing some far right ideologies become more and more common when other people also fought and die for not so long ago, is simply disgusting and unbearable. If what i talk about is a crime, it’s still a lesser crime than what they are doing, they’re the real criminals. And they shouldn’t forget what even ancient people did when they got sick of the governing peoples’ shit. They cut their heads off. That was a serious crime, but if it wasn’t done, the current republic (and surely also myself) won’t be here today.

  • meseek #2982@lemmy.ca
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    Just block it at the ISP who puts this feature into the actual browser has this country even used the web before???

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      2 years ago

      Brother, you don’t know how fucking tech illiterate our government is (with a nice topping of being wannabe autocrats)

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    Even if firefox complies, I am sure a fork will be made that will disable the in-browser censorship. That is the good thing about FOSS.

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        FOSS stands for "free open source software. Open source means the code for the software publically available for anyone to see. A fork is when someone take a project like firefox and clones it (copying the source code), make any chsnges they want (such as removing the in-browser block list) and re-releasing the app.

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      2 years ago

      DO YOU HAVE A SLIP FROM DADDY MACRON ALLOWING YOU TO BYPASS THE CENSHORSHIP WE HAVE FORCED UPON YOU FOR YOUR PROTECTION?

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        There is Brave and forked chromium browsers, but yeah hahahahaha.

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    How do they propose to enforce this, when browsers are free and open-source and can easily be downloaded from hosts outside of France?

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      In this case Mozilla likely has staff and contributors working out of France. Chances are they make money from there too. Mozilla would either need to forfeit the above or comply if the law is implemented.

      Enforcement from decent sized economies can often be as simple as having too much economic power to ignore, which often isn’t that high of a threshold.

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        Sure, but again, it’s open-source - couldn’t somebody not legally affiliated with Mozilla offer a version of it from a server outside France with the blocking code removed?

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      They can probably enforce it on the major ones and that will be enough to censor 95% of the population.