“It’s embarrassing that some problematic far-right figures are speaking out more forcefully against direct military action than the so-called leaders of the opposition,” said the executive director of Our Revolution.

    • @Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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      How many congressional members do you think Jeffrey Epstein and others like him collected blackmail material on for Mossad?

  • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    We need to change the Democratic party if we want to stop any of this madness. In their current form, they are the in the way of fixing this mess. We’re reaping the fruits of those who blocked criticism and the calls for reform of the DNC: Its Blue No Matter Who put us here. If we can break through on the DNC we can find a way out of this. With the DNC as they are, there is no political path forwards. And with no political path forward, the only remaining option is violence.

    We’re locked in a room with a cult that has completely lost their minds, and the people who hold the chains of our political fates, the DNC, are arguing “Be reasonable. Maybe the psychopaths have some interesting ideas”. Then we have to spend most of our energy arguing with those who complain about us wanting to fight those who hold the literal chains that prevent us from directly confronting the psychopaths. If BNMW/ Blue Dogs/ Blue MAGA cant step out of the way and take a back seat with regards to the direction of this party, then I guess we’ll both find out how this ends, just not together.

    • @Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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      Goddamn sick and tired of hearing how we need to change the Democrats. This like police reform, it can’t be done. Only solution is to destroy the party completely and build a new one.

      • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        I mean, I think you are expressing a valid point and maybe right. The apologists defending Democrats from changing may have brought us over a cliff.

      • @Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip
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        It’s what I keep thinking as well. I want a party that plainly states two things: “We are going to Eat the Rich, and fucking Slaughter Nazis!”

        Believe it or not, as things get worse and everything crumbles around us, this message will resonate!

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          The Democratic Party can either adopt that message, or another party that does can be created. Both seem like valid solutions to me.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      With the DNC as they are, there is no political path forwards.

      There is: Abandon the DNC and organize elsewhere. And please spare me the FTPT stuff; the current US political landscape allows—no, demands—the rise of a leftwing party at the expense of the Democrats. Organize in your workplace and neighborhood with explicitly political goals. It’s about time the people threw their hat in the ring again.

      • @dinren@discuss.online
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        Yawn. Organize your workplace and neighborhood. Half-assed. So tired. Your rhetoric didn’t work before and it’s not going to work now.

        The US is fucked and anyone who allowed Trump to win via not voting against him deserves what his policies do to them.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          Okay the US is fucked and at this point there aren’t going to be free and fair elections. What do you propose people do about it? Stay in lockstep with the ineffectual DNC?

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            I suggest that people don’t use an election as a way of protesting. I think that if people want to change things they need to protest it more often than every four years. In between those years is their chance to have actual change for the better. Unfortunately, people usually forget about politics unless it’s an election year.

            To put it a different way, it is important to cast your vote so that you can help shape politics within the country to the best of your ability with the hope that if it cannot get better at the moment at least it can’t get worse. After the election, then focus on pressuring politicians to make systemic changes.

            The idea of refusing to vote is just absolutely absurd to me. The math is so easy to work out.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness
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              I think this perspective is too short-sighted, and the idea that going against the party a whole 25% of the time is more than a little ridiculous, but also that’s not the point. I asked a question about the future, not about the past.

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                There is no point now. Elections from here out can’t be trusted. The county’s data has been sacked by the doge. The greater of two evil’s won and they aren’t going to let it go now.

                So… unless you’re specifically saying we should [rule violation] specific government officials, then I’m struggling to see how we can get out of this as a country. I’ve already started the emigration process.

  • @Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
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    on one hand, no one wants to go to war, on the other there the military industrial complex shareholders and AIPAC.