They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor’s appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it’s “gaslighting” and then said their family doctor wouldn’t get the vaccine.

  • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    52 hours ago

    You stop speaking to them.

    They’ll either come to realize that there are real world consequences for being a dumb asshole, like their friends and family abandoning them…or they won’t. Either way, you win.

  • @Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub
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    32 hours ago

    I heard You’ll die in six months at Thanksgiving one year.

    “Really? Holy fuck, I’m immortal! Call the press! Wait, no, I don’t want to be locked in a room and tested for 40 years, maybe we all just keep this our little secret.”

  • Stern
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    You can’t logic someone out of something they didn’t logic themselves into, and they definitely got emotionally attached to antivax before they found “statistics” to back shit up.

  • HobbitFoot
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    129 hours ago

    Ask for the comparison in excess deaths comparison of vaccinated versus unvaccinated.

  • @FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    What’s the best way to respond to a family member who says the COVID vaccines are being used to depopulate?

    “You are a fucking idiot” usually does the job.

    • @AlreadyDefederated@midwest.social
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      47 hours ago

      “That is a fucking idiotic idea.”

      Attacks the idea, not the person. Probably will be the same result, because they probably were a fucking idiot to believe that stuff, and they are very attached to stupid ideas.

      • @FelixCress@lemmy.world
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        Attacks the idea, not the person

        Well anti-vax are idiots so there is that.

        Probably will be the same result

        Precisely. If someone is an idiot, they won’t understand the difference anyway.

  • @catty@lemmy.world
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    Don’t bother. Anything bad you say will be dismissed as a ‘smear’ campaign against that person because ‘they’ (big pharma, the millions of scientists who are all in on “it”) don’t want you to know and they’ll just shut off against you. Just take a step back from the dolt.

  • @Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    Every time he lies about vaccines you break one of his fingers and tell him lying is bad for his health.

    Jokes aside, ask him who his doctor is, call up his doctor on speaker and ask the doctor if they’d recommend vaccines. He is almost certainly lying to you because he thinks “you believe doctors, ergo I will lie and say a doctor supports my position in an attempt to manipulate you”.

  • Lasherz
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    “If you think the world’s top scientists are trying to kill you, then why would you listen to any expert about anything? They’ll save you from yourself when you’re wrong anyway. Would you do the same for them? That’s why they’re trustworthy, and you and your sources are not.”

  • FuglyDuck
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    1915 hours ago

    Maybe not the answer you’re looking for, but I have an uncle like that.

    I suggest going no contact if you can.

    Reason being, they don’t care about facts, nothing you say will convince them.

  • @sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
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    4017 hours ago

    I’m often a dick. I probably wouldn’t say anything immediately, and then use that asinine opinion to dismiss anything else the person says later. Forever. They say something about , “Yeah, but you also think vaccines kill people, so we already know you are an idiot.” Just on repeat on every opinion they voice, until they never want to say anything around me or talk to me.