My whole point is that I don’t appreciate the creeps who like this sadistic, exploitative sort of stuff, but that whatever complaints I have about them consuming this shit isn’t fractionally as bad or worthwhile to discuss as the problem of it being put up for consumption to begin with.
I think the difference here – once explained – is pretty easy to understand. There’s a huge difference between erotica (etc.) that either recognizes the other as human or just objectifies them in a way that is unconcerned with their view, versus actively reveling in their suffering and subjugation. That’s it.
I think that’s interesting because a lot of people take the opposite position – that people who consume this sort of thing and say it should be banned are hypocrites who can be dismissed – but I agree with you. I’d still think they’re sus, but I’d accept them believing it should be banned and they’re incomparably better than the chanlords who defend it.
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My whole point is that I don’t appreciate the creeps who like this sadistic, exploitative sort of stuff, but that whatever complaints I have about them consuming this shit isn’t fractionally as bad or worthwhile to discuss as the problem of it being put up for consumption to begin with.
I think the difference here – once explained – is pretty easy to understand. There’s a huge difference between erotica (etc.) that either recognizes the other as human or just objectifies them in a way that is unconcerned with their view, versus actively reveling in their suffering and subjugation. That’s it.
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I think that’s interesting because a lot of people take the opposite position – that people who consume this sort of thing and say it should be banned are hypocrites who can be dismissed – but I agree with you. I’d still think they’re sus, but I’d accept them believing it should be banned and they’re incomparably better than the chanlords who defend it.
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