The veggie? I view them further away from vegan ideologically than the average person. It’s not an ethical stance it’s an aversion to flesh and/or trying to shift responsibility away from themselves.

And it wasn’t vitriol I just said she views animals as products so no surprise she doesn’t see an issue?

The silly tradition I don’t participate is in speaking to people like they’re too dumb to hear the truth. That’s how I learned.