“Teleporting quantum information is now a practical reality,” asserts Deutsche Telekom. The firm’s T‑Labs used commercially available Qunnect hardware to demo quantum teleportation over 30km of live, commercial Berlin fiber, running alongside classical internet traffic. In an email to Tom’s Hardware, Deutsche Telekom’s PR folks said that Cisco also ran the same hardware and demo process to connect data centers in NYC.

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    As someone who also doesn’t fully understand quantum entanglement… is it that when two particles are entangled and far apart, when we observe them they will always be in the same state? Is there any way to manipulate that state? If so, it seems like it would be pretty straight forward to use it for faster than light communications.

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      Yep

      The thing is if it’s entangled, why is there a fiber cable?

      If it’s teleportation, why is there a cable?

      However what actually makes consciousness in a brain is (hypothetically, technically) microtubules forming a very tiny cable inside of which quantum superposition is able to be maintained while we are conscious. When even brief quantum entanglement used to be insanely hard anywhere and an environment like the brain considered impossible.

      Like, it’s hard to tell what really happened from OPs article. But there should be much better articles explaining it, and this could actually end up being crazy important. Like, 20-30 years from now this might be how we finally get a real AI.

      Quick edit:

      Like, rather than one straight line to send data, if this can maintain even just entanglement in a simple fiber optic cable…

      Then that’s huge.

      If they just stretched a string between two containment chambers that each have an entangled particle, then what purpose is the string even serving?

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            Thanks, that’s an interesting read. Still stand by my opinion that your statement is overly confident in explaining consciousness.

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              Penrose published a book on it in 1989.

              For literal decades the only thing that ruled it out was the ability for quantum entanglement in the brain. Less than 2 years ago we proved not only was that possible, but quantum super position could be sustained for as long as we’re awake.

              It’s a pretty safe time to be confident, even without accounting for Penrose being the literal smartest person on the planet.

              Like, I’m not big on “appeals to authority” but if Sir Roger Penrose spends 37 years saying something is true, and just continually gets proven more right over the decades…

              It’s not as far reaching as you seem to believe.

              Like, gravity is just a theory too, shit is harder than people realize it is to prove.

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                not a big fan of 'appeal to authority ’

                Literally glazing the guy sloppy style and basing their whole world view on a single random dude. Sorry, on ‘the smartest guy in the planert’.

                Gravity is just a theory

                Ah I see the problem. I opened a thread with the word ‘quantum’ on it. Lmao

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                I think you’re doing your argument a disservice by comparing it to theory of gravity. But I do appreciate learning about this hypothesis and that there is actual experimentation going on. Thanks again for sharing.

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                  I think you’re doing your argument a disservice by comparing it to theory of gravity

                  That’s not a direct comparison…

                  It’s the generic comparison to show that “just a theory” includes thing we understand 99.9999% of and definitely exists

                  Until we know absolutely everything, it’s still a theory

                  But we don’t have to believe in gravity for it to be real

                  The point is:

                  Just a theory

                  Doesn’t mean as much as what people think when they say it

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        My non scientific intuitive guess is that the cable is there to reliably create the entanglement conditions.

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        Question as I’m ignorant about what you are talking about, what are the real implications of what you say in real everyday life? I mean this is physics but what kind of technology could be developed with it?

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          Faster then light travel for information. Hyper efficient computing which can do infinite calculations at once (which is why its a threat to our password infrastructure).

          If you take it far enough into speculation actual teleportation that could circumvent the teleportclone dilemma. But that one is more science fiction not proven impossible, the above 2 are proven theoretically possible.

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              I would call that an observer of some kind.

              I actually have some ideas as I spend a rather unhealthy amount of freetime thinking of quantum mechanics. While not at all being a proper scientist but i have come to perceive the concept of a blended multiverse.

              When you are in a room alone, there are tons of things you could be doing. You become slightly dis-entangled from the world. You only experience one slice, the thing you know you are doing, but actually exists in superposition from the perspective of the rest of the world. At the same time the rest of the world exists in a state of superposition towards you. When you break your isolation and interact with the world in any way your experienced slice of reality becomes entangled to a slice of reality that is the rest of the world.

              But the entanglement is a spectrum. Even alone in a room you still know that you are on earth and that gravity exists. You are entangled to you awareness so whatever infinite amount of things you could do, flying is not one of them. Except in a slice reality where its normal for gravity to not exists. But you, nor the rest of the world can interact with that specific slice. Our consciousness has evolved to perceive reality as if it makes sense with our primitive capacity, we can not perceive reality outside of what we all entangled consciousness networks within a context system understand as shared coherent reality.

              When a friend group splits up each member could lead many different lives, all of those exist in superposition . But when you get back together to talk about old times in that moment of that conversation most of those different version of their lives are unified and entangled into one slice again. Then when they start talking about the rest of their lives you entangle to that one slice of their multiverse lives.

              Anyway this is oversimplified of my actual ideas and again i am not an accomplished scientist. I do not take myself too serious about these things but i love conceptualising all of It.

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      when two particles are entangled and far apart, when we observe them they will always be in the same state?

      They will be opposite states of each other the moment observing collapses their waveform. This effectively removes their entangled state. It cannot be used to communicate information faster than c.