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A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ·
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When you mention that classless civilisations have existed in the past.

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When you mention that classless civilisations have existed in the past.

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  • Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zip
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    But did any of those ancient civilizations cause mass extinctions, destruction of habitats, deforestation, and climate change.

    Checkmate, anarchist 😎

    • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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      They did! Mammoths come to mind, at the very least.

      • Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zip
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        i actually forgot about that…

        • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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          Mammoths definitely had a pecking order.

      • anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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        Did Easter islanders have classes? They deforested that place pretty thoroughly.

      • fossilesque@mander.xyz
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        Mammoths were already dying off. Humans finished the job. 😎

  • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.world
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    What civilization(s) were classless?

    • A404@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      The Cucuteni–Trypillia civilisation started out as a classless civilisation.

      The Indus Valley Civilisation had no rulers.

      Frisia was yet another classless society.

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        I’ve never heard of any of those, thank you for links! I’ll edit this remark if any of these are absurd claims

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        And where are they today?

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          Where is the Roman Empire today?

          • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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            i was just thinking “because authoritarian regimes have such a strong record of not having ~80 years cycles of collapse and regrowth”

          • A404@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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            They used up all of their resources and then slowly collapsed because of invasions and maintenence issues.

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            I know a dude named Roman and he’s a pretty shitty emperor. He barely rules one room let alone a house or a county.

            Now me, I got a street. It’s like 400 feet long. I got guys on the corner. My empire, I’m gonna sell ice cream dude.

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          Cucuteni was destroyed by force. Frisia fell due to a civil war and the indus valley civilisation collapsed because of climate change.

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            It’s important to note that Frisian classlessness ended decades before the fall of Frisia due to civil war.

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            I wonder if there was ever a civilisation that ended in a good way like “this was peak, guys. let’s just disperse”

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              Soviet Union /s

        • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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          The same place we will end up if we let capitalism cannibalise human society.

          For various reasons, things didn’t end up going well for these civilisations, but it’s not like we’re doing much better. Learning from examples of classless societies throughout history doesn’t mean trying to replicate their modes of doing things exactly, but understanding how they functioned in context (including why these civilisations are no longer around).

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    “no, but wheat tho!!”

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