The Mandalorian & Grogu is released this week and is set for the lowest opening weekend of any Star Wars film ever. With the TV shows also struggling, here's why interest is waning.
I feel like the only thing the headline really addresses is Ahsoka. It’s the only show or movie that’s truly enmeshed with the cartoons.
Rogue One also assumes you watched Clone Wars. I hadn’t (and haven’t, for lack of time), and I was rather confused about the whole Saw Gerrera thing. Solo was better in that regard.
Side note: back when I watched R1 in cinema I loved it, especially the unexpected ending. However, I recently rewatched it and I was really bothered by how underdeveloped the characters are. Everyone is very one-dimensional, and Jyn’s motivation changes because the plot needs it. Is there no one at Lucasarts to proofread these scripts and correct these kind of flaws?
I had no idea who Saw Guerra was when I saw RO. I have since seen Clone Wars, and honestly I don’t think it adds anything at all. Time and events make the Saw in Rogue One a very different character.
It’s more of a “I recognize that guy” moment, I think. Maybe others got more out of the connection than I did.
I disagree a bit on Jyn, though it sounds like you rewatched more recently than I, but as I recall her motivation changed after resolving the biggest trauma of her childhood/life. I find that plausible, myself.
The Empire kills Jyn’s mother, so obviously she doesn’t like them
Saw takes care of Jyn, until something happens (no clue what) and we’re led to assume they’re on bad terms.
Jyn does not trust the Rebels (understandable), Cassian included, and only tags along to save her father
The Rebels kill her father
At this point, Jyn trusts no one. Every interaction with other people felt forced and awkward
Jyn decides to throw her lot in with the Rebels and strike at the Empire. Suddenly she gets along with the rest of the crew and they happily fly to their doom
It’s the last part that irks me. I get that she’s traumatized, but it only gets worse during the movie, and somehow she just gets over it and decides to sacrifice herself for the morally gray faction that killed her last remaining parent.
It would have been more believable if e.g. Cassian rescued Jyn’s father against his orders in exchange for her help stealing the Death Star schematics.
So first I just want to say I love nerding out over Star Wars, so this is all in that spirit and not disagreement or invalidating your points.
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I could write a lot here just to explore all of your punts, but the essence boils down to this:
Her suddenly-not-traitor fathers dying wish was that this life’s work in hiding a flaw in the Death Star be realized to undo the super weapon he’d been forced to create. So she enlisted the rebellion to her cause rather than the other way around. Her whole speech wasn’t I’m suddenly a true believer — it was don’t be hypocrites. Seize the opportunity my father provided and fucking do something.
It was all to shame them into completing her father’s work, which she suddenly could believe in — which she needed to prove to clear her father’s name.
So first I just want to say I love nerding out over Star Wars, so this is all in that spirit and not disagreement or invalidating your points.
Same <3
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Fair enough, I think that’s a valid reading.
I wish they had spent some more time on character development, to give these things some room to breathe. Show some more of Jyn’s time with Saw so we can get to know her, give her and Cassian more dialogue to discuss the turning points of the story, that dort of stuff.
Rogue One also assumes you watched Clone Wars. I hadn’t (and haven’t, for lack of time), and I was rather confused about the whole Saw Gerrera thing. Solo was better in that regard.
Side note: back when I watched R1 in cinema I loved it, especially the unexpected ending. However, I recently rewatched it and I was really bothered by how underdeveloped the characters are. Everyone is very one-dimensional, and Jyn’s motivation changes because the plot needs it. Is there no one at Lucasarts to proofread these scripts and correct these kind of flaws?
I had no idea who Saw Guerra was when I saw RO. I have since seen Clone Wars, and honestly I don’t think it adds anything at all. Time and events make the Saw in Rogue One a very different character.
It’s more of a “I recognize that guy” moment, I think. Maybe others got more out of the connection than I did.
I disagree a bit on Jyn, though it sounds like you rewatched more recently than I, but as I recall her motivation changed after resolving the biggest trauma of her childhood/life. I find that plausible, myself.
IIRC, it’s been a year:
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It’s the last part that irks me. I get that she’s traumatized, but it only gets worse during the movie, and somehow she just gets over it and decides to sacrifice herself for the morally gray faction that killed her last remaining parent.
It would have been more believable if e.g. Cassian rescued Jyn’s father against his orders in exchange for her help stealing the Death Star schematics.
So first I just want to say I love nerding out over Star Wars, so this is all in that spirit and not disagreement or invalidating your points.
spoiler
I could write a lot here just to explore all of your punts, but the essence boils down to this:
Her suddenly-not-traitor fathers dying wish was that this life’s work in hiding a flaw in the Death Star be realized to undo the super weapon he’d been forced to create. So she enlisted the rebellion to her cause rather than the other way around. Her whole speech wasn’t I’m suddenly a true believer — it was don’t be hypocrites. Seize the opportunity my father provided and fucking do something.
It was all to shame them into completing her father’s work, which she suddenly could believe in — which she needed to prove to clear her father’s name.
Same <3
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Fair enough, I think that’s a valid reading.
I wish they had spent some more time on character development, to give these things some room to breathe. Show some more of Jyn’s time with Saw so we can get to know her, give her and Cassian more dialogue to discuss the turning points of the story, that dort of stuff.