https://xcancel.com/APUkraine/status/2087118882402169134

According to Soviet intelligence, in the early 1930’s. Evgeny Konovalets twice personally met with Hitler, who, in particular, proposed to send a group of Ukrainian nationalists to study at the Nazi party school in Leipzig. According to the Polish statement, the first such meeting took place even before the arrival of the National Socialists to power - in September 1932. After the meeting with Hitler, Konovalets in his article “Hitler and Ukrainian Affairs”, published in the UV newspaper “On the guard”, called on Ukrainian nationalists “to become a dense Cossack system on the side of Hitler, which will create a gateway to the East”[1]

  1. Translated from https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Коновалец,_Евгений_Михайлович#Во_главе_УВО_и_ОУН ↩︎

  • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.comdeleted by creatorEnglish
    49·
    2 months ago

    I’ve noticed that when I mention Ukraine’s reverence of Nazi collaborators, the pro-Ukrainian types on here never want to talk about it and never reply.

    They know they’ve got 4 options; admit that the Ukrainian government enthusiastically celebrates the UPA and Nazi collaborators, which is a very bad look. Deny it outright (they can’t because it’s objective fact). Dismiss it as Russian propaganda and/or claim Russia are the real Nazis. Or just straight up ignore it and don’t address it.

    • Johnny_Arson [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      32·
      2 months ago

      Yep the .ml post had 7 down votes and no comments other than people pointing that out.

      My goto question for most people especially western “anarchists” is “do people in Donbas region have a right to self determination or not?”

      • demeritum@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        They are going to scream about decolonization and forget that Ukrainians are colonialists in Southern Ukraine and Crimea too- even the cossack culture has colonial aspects to it and is DEFINITELY linked to “tamer of the wastes, slayer of the comanche” imagery for their chauvinists.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      the pro-Ukrainian types on here never want to talk about it and never reply.

      Taps sign

      Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

      It applies to all reactionaries, but especially zionists and neo-nazis.