Open source has become a safe harbor for far-right politics, from David Heinemeier Hansson's white-nationalist rhetoric and the Omarchy Foundation's $12 mi…
additionally, i’m not saying that opposing racism or bigotry is immature. I’m saying throwing out a successful open-source project because the owner is allegedly a racist/bigot (i admittedly know nothing or care to know anything about this DHH character) is counterproductive. Is the code racist/bigoted? If I make something using Omarchy as my OS, am I racist/bigoted? It sounds like that’s what you’re implying…
First of all, the premise that this “open-source” project is innovative or there’s something other than Archlinux + Dotfiles + Bundled software in the ISO is flawed. There’s hardly anything inside the OS that other projects cannot achieve or haven’t. If you want to call something innovative, Nix and NixOS fit the bill perfectly, CachyOS also fits the description. Omarchy doesn’t. It’s like saying Endeavour OS is doing something innovative.
When someone who is not intent on supporting bigots looks at EndeavourOS and Omarchy, They will choose EndeavourOS 100% of the time.
Success for you might be to get a million dollars and not question the origins of said money or the motives. Other people may have stricter standards for success than that.
I don’t believe I’ve used the word “innovative” anywhere.
You’re forgetting the very important aspect of actually getting users to use your product. Look, I hate marketing. I refuse to do it myself over channels like instagram, twitter/x, etc. Sadly, that’s what works for the vast majority of people.
The reality is that right now people are fucked in the head with conditioned patterns. That means you, that means me. There’s a lot of dissonance going on in the world of people coming into hard terms with reality, and one of those realities is that dumbasses have a lot of money and we’re still allowing that money to have power over us.
There’s only so much time in the day and we have to do things intelligently in the ways that they work. Sometimes that is going to involve radical acceptance that we are also part of the problem and that changing our own habits is really the most control we have. Is there fascism around? Yeah, probably. Evil is a part of the world and it will be there tomorrow in another form.
Re: EndeavourOS - no. they wont. I don’t even know what EndeavourOS and I’m 1,000,000x more tech savvy then 99% of the people I know. Just like there’s a 1% of people who own all the wealth, there’s a 1% of people who have technical knowledge and the rest are relatively illiterate. You guys are in an echo box and I’m sorry but no one gives a shit because they don’t understand even what a config file is. They might understand that Microsoft and Apple are spying on them, Linux is something that is the new fad. Omarchy looks cool.
i find it interesting you think that i do not have kindness or empathy based on my stance. I’d be curious if you were to meet me in real life if you could pick me out of a hypothetical lineup.
This project has received money because it has drawn people to linux. I can still appreciate open-source code even if it’s written by an asshat.
On the other hand, I won’t touch an Apple product and I judge tech enthusiasts who do. I will still say they make impressive products, but I have a strong stance against proprietary code for the sake of profit.
In today’s world, adoption is not typically driven by real innovation, it’s driven by formulaic marketing people are impressively easily manipulated by. Programming.dev is a very small community of technically inclined people who are capable enough that the conversation can be about values… Almost the entire rest of the world don’t even realize that a computer speaks in 1’s and 0’s. They live in a world of complete abstraction dictated by manufactured dopamine. NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD HAS THE BANDWIDTH TO EVEN DISCUSS THIS TOPIC.
I know an entire group of great people who all use Omarchy because it’s an accessible software that they can convince others to install and configure. These are people who are working on projects trying to spread healthy sovereign lifestyles away from this system dictated by money. I asked one of them if they heard about DHH being a Nazi and they were clueless. They are new to linux and it’s already difficult enough to get them to make the leap off of windows/macosx. Everyone in the space has their cool Omarchy computer though with its fun screensaver that reminds them of N64 graphics and they go alright I want to be cool too. There’s no chance in hell they’re going to install NixOS (I already tried for one guy and we hit a glitch with his wifi and he just wanted to go back to Omarchy so he could continue working on stuff).
What I’m trying to say is none of these people are fascist/nazis nor support them, but there bandwidth is minimal. The only way I could ever see them switching off of Omarchy is if the exact same state were branched and all that changed was the name and the people behind it. That switch I could be like “Hey guys! I know you all love Omarchy but sadly the guy behind it is a nazi. Not to worry, you just have to run this command and you’ll be on a project supported by good people.” That’s the most I can expect of them.
FYI I use NixOS and Omarchy and AI were stepping stones for me to get there.
Opposing racism and bigotry is not immature. I feel like you should learn kindness and empathy.
additionally, i’m not saying that opposing racism or bigotry is immature. I’m saying throwing out a successful open-source project because the owner is allegedly a racist/bigot (i admittedly know nothing or care to know anything about this DHH character) is counterproductive. Is the code racist/bigoted? If I make something using Omarchy as my OS, am I racist/bigoted? It sounds like that’s what you’re implying…
First of all, the premise that this “open-source” project is innovative or there’s something other than Archlinux + Dotfiles + Bundled software in the ISO is flawed. There’s hardly anything inside the OS that other projects cannot achieve or haven’t. If you want to call something innovative, Nix and NixOS fit the bill perfectly, CachyOS also fits the description. Omarchy doesn’t. It’s like saying Endeavour OS is doing something innovative.
When someone who is not intent on supporting bigots looks at EndeavourOS and Omarchy, They will choose EndeavourOS 100% of the time.
Success for you might be to get a million dollars and not question the origins of said money or the motives. Other people may have stricter standards for success than that.
I don’t believe I’ve used the word “innovative” anywhere.
You’re forgetting the very important aspect of actually getting users to use your product. Look, I hate marketing. I refuse to do it myself over channels like instagram, twitter/x, etc. Sadly, that’s what works for the vast majority of people.
The reality is that right now people are fucked in the head with conditioned patterns. That means you, that means me. There’s a lot of dissonance going on in the world of people coming into hard terms with reality, and one of those realities is that dumbasses have a lot of money and we’re still allowing that money to have power over us.
There’s only so much time in the day and we have to do things intelligently in the ways that they work. Sometimes that is going to involve radical acceptance that we are also part of the problem and that changing our own habits is really the most control we have. Is there fascism around? Yeah, probably. Evil is a part of the world and it will be there tomorrow in another form.
Re: EndeavourOS - no. they wont. I don’t even know what EndeavourOS and I’m 1,000,000x more tech savvy then 99% of the people I know. Just like there’s a 1% of people who own all the wealth, there’s a 1% of people who have technical knowledge and the rest are relatively illiterate. You guys are in an echo box and I’m sorry but no one gives a shit because they don’t understand even what a config file is. They might understand that Microsoft and Apple are spying on them, Linux is something that is the new fad. Omarchy looks cool.
i find it interesting you think that i do not have kindness or empathy based on my stance. I’d be curious if you were to meet me in real life if you could pick me out of a hypothetical lineup.
This project has received money because it has drawn people to linux. I can still appreciate open-source code even if it’s written by an asshat.
On the other hand, I won’t touch an Apple product and I judge tech enthusiasts who do. I will still say they make impressive products, but I have a strong stance against proprietary code for the sake of profit.
In today’s world, adoption is not typically driven by real innovation, it’s driven by formulaic marketing people are impressively easily manipulated by. Programming.dev is a very small community of technically inclined people who are capable enough that the conversation can be about values… Almost the entire rest of the world don’t even realize that a computer speaks in 1’s and 0’s. They live in a world of complete abstraction dictated by manufactured dopamine. NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD HAS THE BANDWIDTH TO EVEN DISCUSS THIS TOPIC.
I know an entire group of great people who all use Omarchy because it’s an accessible software that they can convince others to install and configure. These are people who are working on projects trying to spread healthy sovereign lifestyles away from this system dictated by money. I asked one of them if they heard about DHH being a Nazi and they were clueless. They are new to linux and it’s already difficult enough to get them to make the leap off of windows/macosx. Everyone in the space has their cool Omarchy computer though with its fun screensaver that reminds them of N64 graphics and they go alright I want to be cool too. There’s no chance in hell they’re going to install NixOS (I already tried for one guy and we hit a glitch with his wifi and he just wanted to go back to Omarchy so he could continue working on stuff).
What I’m trying to say is none of these people are fascist/nazis nor support them, but there bandwidth is minimal. The only way I could ever see them switching off of Omarchy is if the exact same state were branched and all that changed was the name and the people behind it. That switch I could be like “Hey guys! I know you all love Omarchy but sadly the guy behind it is a nazi. Not to worry, you just have to run this command and you’ll be on a project supported by good people.” That’s the most I can expect of them.
FYI I use NixOS and Omarchy and AI were stepping stones for me to get there.