Just thinking of ditching nextcloud and its just too much for my family use. All i needis carddav, caldav and file sync. Have a Debian VM running on Scale and was thinking of using Cloudron docker install. Is this the way others are installing on VMs?
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Radicale has been so good I’d forgotton it existed, carddav and caldav sorted. Unix principle at its best, do one thing well (or microservices for the newbies). Why are you dogwhistling for a closed source marginal replacement for syncthing ?
I just want an app to backup all the photos from my phone automatically. I use NextCloud for that currently and it works well. But, it’s kinda heavy for what I want/need.
I solve this with immich too. Its a real game changer and agree with others that have indicated this as one of hthe best pieces of OSS.
have you heard about immich? it’s a bit ‘heavy’, too, but that’s because it’s not just a photo backup solution but aims to be a self-hosted multi-user replacement for google photos.
Can Immich just leave my photos alone in their current location / folder structure, or does it take over and mangle it all up?
I’m fairly happy with my photo storage structure, but would like the features of Immich…
I use it in readonly mode. Works great nice app and great search capabilities.
There’s also PhotoPrism which is nice. The comparison between the two is evolving with every release.
They don’t have a proper Android app with sync capability and force you to use the proprietary, 3rd-party PhotoSync app.
That’s not entirely correct. PhotoPrism offers WebDAV and SAMBA protocols, and their docs state that clearly: https://docs.photoprism.app/user-guide/sync/mobile-devices/#other-apps Furthermore, you can always sync files to the server via other means (e.g. SyncThing).
I’m talking about easy to set up, new user friendly solutions. Having an official app with a sync feature is essential in my opinion
Cloudron is kind of a freemium product. They offer a few apps (two ?) for free to use. For more apps you need to pay. Their back-end does have a view-source-but-no-edit “open source” license last time I checked. Bu if you want to keep things easy, go for it.
Syncthing can backup your photos on Android.
I second that. I’ve been using it for a couple of years, syncing calendars and address book with both my PC and my Android smartphone (using DavX) and never had any problems.
This is nice for the file syncing part: https://github.com/kd2org/karadav
I can recommend using Cloudron but I don’t use Radicale.
Cloudron is in no way a necessity for anyone - it’s simply me being too lazy to keep everything up to date, read all the necessary documentation for all the services we run,etc. Cloudron does all that for me - and I couldn’t be happier. Johannes,the owner, provides fast support (had two glitches with Hetzner DNS over the years) and the amount of Apps is getting wider each year, although I would rather see their range be broader (e.g. a proper Monitoring system instead of yet another project management),but that’s just me.
In theory it’s even possible to create your own apps for cloudron, both for public and private use, but that is beyond my capabilities. It can also be used as a SSO provider and reverse proxy,btw.
There is no difference between installing software on a VM and on “bare metal”. The OS takes care of the hardware stuff.
I installed it according to their manual on their website (https://radicale.org/v3.html) which is imo pretty easy. The TLDR is that you first install python3 and its package manager pipx, then you install radicale using pipx and finally you run it as a systemd service. You can just copy their service template. The issue comes when you need to run multiple web services though. Radicale wants to be on the website root (website.com/ instead of website.com/some/path/blablabla/ ) which is not as trivial to set up as the previous steps. They have a template for nginx and apache but you need to kinda know the very basics of one of these to set it up.
Also on debian there is a package so you could technically just apt install radicale and then systemctl enable radicale if you want to avoid creating a service and installing python.
Obviously you need to create a basic config either way according to their manual. At least for password authentification.
Running radicale on mydomain.blah/radicale just fine since day 0…
They didn’t say it couldn’t be done, just that it isn’t the default way it sets itself up and requires more work.
My point was that it isn’t as trivial but I suppose it is as long as you don’t care about https and proper certificates. You can just copy their nginx/apache template if you don’t.
OK, so seems like best way to install Radicals is on my Debian VM using apt. I wonder if anyone has compared Baikal to Radicale …
I haven’t tried Baikal but it seems to have (from the screenshots) just a bit more features. Radicale is merely the calendar+contacts+tasks server. You can login through the web UI to create calendars and delete them. They are then managed by a calendar/contact/task app like thunderbird. Baikal seems to have settings and a dashboard in the web UI which Radicale lacks.
Both seem to have an unofficial docker container if you’re into that.
Well, I was looking fo r the docker container but as my VM is Debian, I’ll go down the apt route which is official and maintained.
i have just started running radicale a lot more for calendars and contacts. then use betterbird for the client on my laptop and other android apps.
the problem is that there is no web-ui. otherwise, relatively solid and lightweight server so far.
From other responses to this thread it appears that Baikal does have a web UI so maybe it closes this gap?
I currently rent a VM running nextcloud for family use. It currently shows its age with all the nescessary tinkering to keep it current. (also have to use the hosters db which is … difficult)
I’m thinking along the same lines…
a smallffpc at home, dyn to my home ip, wireguard as a vpn into my home, The server runs: radicale caldav carddav, ksmbd family photos.
my main problem: this needs to work on ios and android and linux and windows, reliably, which it currently does not in my test setup.
currently lacking a solution for recipe sharing and shopping list sharing. Maybe setting up nextcloud on my own server is less of a hassle_…
Home Assistant can do shared lists and (I’ve not used them) but has some recipe add-ons. There are apps for android and iOS. It can also take care of managing the dynamic IP. Then if you want to explore home automation in future you’re ready to go.
Home Assistant was not on my radar. Thank you!
