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I condemn bidens support of Israel, but will still vote for him because that’s a no brainer. Do I have no morals or is it more complicated than that?
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I understand that it’s complex. Support for a candidate is always complex. That’s my point. This “OMG, she killed a dog and they will still vote for her? They have no morals!” is just silly, partisan black and white thinking. As you seem to recognize when it comes to supporting Biden, it’s much more complicated than that.
It’s a complicated issue to be sure, but it isn’t media manipulation to say that supporting Israel is the same as supporting their atrocities. That’s literally what supporting Israel is at this point. That’s like saying you can support Nazi Germany while not supporting the Holocaust
Orange man emboldened Israeli regime by giving them everything they wanted and, as usual, democrat president is left to clean up the mess and get blamed for.
Clean up the mess by continuing the same policies with the only change being the addition of some finger wagging and the threat of wrist slapping?
Giving Israel everything it wants while telling the rest of the world we’ll pressure the regime to change has been US policy for decades. The problem didn’t start with “Orange Man”
( side question: are you afraid that if you say “Trump” he’ll show up and grab you inappropriately?)
Until they stop sending weapons they are supporting the atrocities.
While that is true it’s not the point. If both candidates are going to send weapons and one of the two will be elected then you have to make a decision that has more levels of evaluation than the one. As much as I absolutely despise voting for someone who is aiding in the genocide taking place, there isn’t a choice because both candidates will support it. The US is democratic republic but it’s a republic none the less, we don’t get to vote on individual laws only the people who make them are voted on. If all of the candidates support something then the people are essentially powerless to stop it.
By that definition, several Warsaw Pact states were also democratic, since you could vote for anyone the ruling parties nominated, and frequently the local Communist party only had a 60-70% majority in the relevant assembly.
Now I’m not saying the US is a dictatorship, but there are definitely a lot of anti-democratic qualities to it, and the decision to support Israel is not a democratic decision made by the US Government.
Everything Republicans push for is cruel and insane. Are they condemning her, or commending?
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Even republicans love their dogs.
Mitt Romney. Ted Cruz.
Even republicans love their dogs
She is just showing that Republican tough love.
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If you look at who is quoted in the article doing the condemning, it’s pretty much all repented trumpets or never-trumpers, who are a vanishing minority in the Republican party. I don’t think this will have any negative impact on the MAGA Republicans’ view of Noem.
They’re still fine with genocide though.
EDIT: I see some lemmy users are so pro-genocide that they’ll downvote a comment critical of republicans’ support for it.
It’s easy when you think that some peoples lives are worth less than a dog’s !
Who here hasn’t killed their own dog for biting someone?
Ya, I mean, who hasn’t shot their kitty because cleaning litter boxes is nasty.
I mean who hasn’t flushed baby alligators down the toilet.
I mean, I get it on one hand - her (still a puppy, so untrained) hunting dog got away and killed a bunch of one of her neighbor’s chickens. That’s expensive, and not ideal behavior.
On the other hand, you know what you do with that? You reimburse your neighbor, and rigorously train your dog so it doesn’t happen again. If you can’t spare the time to train them, you give them up to a shelter so they can hopefully find someone who does have the time.
Hey, lighten up! She’s not even the first Republican VP to shoot someone in the face. It doesn’t make her unelectable, but quite the opposite. Trump is guaranteed to pick her now.
Yeah with the way the revelation is (rightly) pissing off “The Libs^TM” (anyone with common sense), she’s the obvious choice for Trump. As long as she let’s him grab her by the pussy.
I think she probably thinks this will be interpreted as “sacrifice the lives of democrats to accomplish our goals”
She’s told us what it means: she’s trying to paint herself as able to make the tough choices. Its right in the article.
tough choices
I’m speculating on what “tough choices” her constituents will hope she makes.
Getting rid of troublemakers that won’t conform
Mouthy college kids, minorities & queer folk. Scary shit.
It’s pretty standard politicalese. To assume it means she thinks it will be interpreted as murdering her political opponents, when it’s pretty clear she is trying to paint herself as some practical farmer making the hard logical choices one has to in that life, strikes me as ridiculously presumptuous.
Of course they condemn it. “We don’t say that shit in public, that’s what we have private clubs for!”
But sadistically killing animals? Most don’t care about that.
Noem’s political career is over at least on a national level. You can cheat on your husband and pretty much be a fascist, but dog killers are universally hated. she’ll never live it down.
dog killers are universally hated
Yep. There’s even a site, doesthedogdie.com, that let’s people check to see if a dog dies in a book or movie so they can avoid patronizing the work. Her book is flagged on the site already.
I don’t trust Republicans to do the right thing about puppy killers, sadly, but i do appreciate this website! Thank you!
Yep! I walked away from game of thrones in the second episode when they killed the dog.
Before i went into this comment section, i thought that just republicans wanted to tear this country apart. Now i am disappointed to see that both sides aren’t interested in cooperation.
Cmon, literally a both sides argument.
look at the top 5 upvoted comments. Only one of them talks about the Article. All the other essentially just say “Republicans bad”
Everyone always complains about polarization and division, but noone actually wants to cooperate.
When the person in question is fucking bad, maybe the cooperation is that both Republicans and Democrats are calling her dog killing actions fucking insane. Republicans condemn it as personally insane. Democrats condemn it as emblematic of the kind of people Republican politicians are.
Democrats condemn it as emblematic of the kind of people Republican politicians are.
I would actually already be happy if it was just that. But not even that BS is enough for some People here. Look at the Top Comments. They’re implicating all Republican Voters in this. This Team-Mentality is going to destroy the US
This was something that brought the Democrats and Republicans together, in that both sides thought killing a healthy puppy and bragging about it was insane.
It would make more sense if you are a bot, but how precisely do you want the parties to collaborate on this topic?
This was something that brought the Democrats and Republicans together, in that both sides thought killing a healthy puppy and bragging about it was insane.
I wish this was true. But look at the top comments here. They’re all going “republicans are lying, they’re secretly being turned on by killing puppies, they’re just condemning it for show. They actually ritually sacrifice one each week in their pact with the Devil”
