The DEA’s proposal, which still must be reviewed by the White House Office of Management and Budget, would recognize the medical uses of cannabis and acknowledge it has less potential for abuse than some of the nation’s most dangerous drugs. However, it would not legalize marijuana outright for recreational use.
I am really sorry for those of you who use it recreationally, because it deserves to be legal for you too, but as a medical user in a non-legal state, this is amazing news.
I am really sorry for those of you who use it recreationally, because it deserves to be legal for you too, but as a medical user in a non-legal state, this is amazing news.
One step closer, IMO id rather medical people get it first ASAP anyways. Us recreational users have fun with it and it’s far better than say alcohol for a good time, but at the end of the day I don’t need it.
I don’t need it
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Congrats to you!! Hopefully your ability to get ur medicine becomes easier/safer, but either way at least itll be legal for u!
Thanks!
What’s that saying? A high tide raises all boats. This is good for everyone.
I think someone said the whatever agency needs to reclassify it before legalization can happen. I have no idea why or how it works. But this could be the start of legalization from Congress.
which still must be reviewed by the White House Office of Management and Budget
sigh So it hasn’t actually been rescheduled yet.
tl;dr: DEA moving cannabis, ketamine, and some other stuff to schedule III; first it goes to OMB for approval, then they have a comment period, then they issue their final ruling.
Better a couple decades late than never, I suppose, but they should really just take it off entirely. Psilocybin too.
The idea that something you can just grow yourself like a plant of a fungus is illegal is ridiculous on the face of it.
Yeah. It doesn’t make a whole lotta sense does it? lol
Yeah. It’s perfectly legal to grow and use your own tobacco plants. It’s only regulated when you want to sell or distribute it.
What about Japanese barberry?
Sorry, I have no idea what that is.
Apparently an invasive species that affects soil PH, not many animals eat it, it attracts ticks, etc
Invasive species are covered by an entirely different set of laws and agency of enforcement.
I’m ok with putting jurisdiction over all drugs under the DNR.
I realize the post is about controlled substances, but the comment thread started with
The idea that something you can just grow yourself like a plant of a fungus is illegal is ridiculous on the face of it.
The idea that not being able to grow any plant you want is ridiculous is not well thought out. Something being natural doesn’t mean it should be available to anyone.
I genuinely think the only legal restriction on growing plants should be if there is credible evidence that it harms the local ecology, and then a ban can be bypassed if the harmful plant is grown in an environment that would prevent that harm (eg in an indoor lab setting where seeds/spores/etc wouldn’t be able to escape).
ketamine
wasn’t ketamine schedule III already?
Yeah I think they misread that part. Cannabis was moved to schedule 3 which, for example, contains ketamine.
Probably. I was skimming it and couldn’t find any primary source linked in the article.
Good human! :)
Just a reminder that if trump is elected, he will reverse this immediately only because Biden did it.
That’s not speculation. That’s a godamn fact.
I don’t care which clown it is, burn the circus down!
If you wanna burn yourself and all of us down then vote Trump/don’t vote. At least with Trump you won’t ever need to vote again.
You realize you’re inside the circus right? Burning it down quite probably means you and everyone you know burns to death too right?
The circus is in DC, a grotesque megalomaniacal mental illness masquerading as an empire.
The circus is the US. The ringmaster is in DC. We all live in the circus, surrounded by clowns and lions, but if you set the tarp on fire, we all burn. We need a new circus.
Seriously fuck the fact that Marijuana is still illegal, broken ass racist bullshit system while alcohol is legal and marijuana is not.
Still makes me sick to think of all of those cunt fucking cops who sent people to prison for this shit.
Absolutely, and the DEA is a fucking failure, we have an opioid epidemic and they’ve done absolutely nothing to help the US. Complete fucking bullshit agency that does NOTHING to help the American people.
i wish that they would also reschedule lsd and psilocybin to schedule III, but at least some progress is better than no progress
Seriously. There have to be more people who die from ketamine than LSD every year. It all seems so arbitrary.
It is arbitrary. While what classification a substance is may have some grounding in research, it’s mostly up to what interest group has either lobbied to get something under or whatever group law enforcement wants to be able to get easy charges for. Cannabis was Sched I because it made it easy for law enforcement to get big sentences for minorities and the counter culture participants of the day. Same thing with LSD and psilocybin.
All the DEA scheduling is just pick and choose your charge for whatever ideological ax they want to grind. Hence why things don’t line up with reality
And MDMA? It shows a lot of promise in therapeutic use. Schedule 1 is for substances with “no currently accepted medical treatment use”.
Yeah, MDMA also doesn’t belong in schedule I, although it is definitely more risky than lsd and mushrooms
How so?
Overdose of MDMA can cause seratonin syndrome, which can be fatal; and long term use might be linked to depression and anxiety (again, by the way it interacts with seratonin)
It definitely should be rescheduled too, since it is not dangerous enough and definitely has potential for medical use (couple therapy was it’s original use)
I’m sure all the “stroke of a pen” trolls are going to be here to apologize any second, right?
Probably not, all of the hardcore Biden supporters I’ve met on this website are just utter scum who will never admit to anything no matter how obvious it is, like how this obviously could have been done at any point but was saved for an election year, or how rescheduling it instead of just descheduling it entirely keeps it federally criminal and breaks campaign pledges he made in 2019 and 2020
Best thing you can do is just try to leave some truthful information where some people might see it and ignore the replies
You clearly have very strong opinions, but I bet life would be more fun if you stopped seeing utter scum and saw more neighbor, sister, husband, friend…
Being mad at improvement. Impressed
Disband the DEA
Better idea, make them enforce regulations on pharmaceutical companies instead of people. They wouldn’t even have to change the signage!
Push the DEA through a fine screen mesh !
disband america
What’s the likelihood of this happening before the election?
I know Biden tasked the FDA to investigate reclassifying it, which should be a win, but until the FDA actually finishes the reclassification it won’t show in the polls. If the bureaucracy can move fast enough for this to get done before the election, it could mean a decent little bump for Biden.
DEA. The FDA makes the recommendations, then then DEA decides if they want to follow it or not.
This should be fixed. DEA are cops, not medical experts, and shouldn’t be making this decision.
Thanks for the correction! So there is another level of bureaucracy involved before anything changes. Awesome.
Well, it’s already in front of the DEA, and then it goes to a White House committee. Good news there is that Biden would be directly in charge of a White House committee. It apparently took a lot of effort to get the DEA to pull their heads out of their ass, but it’s done now (hopefully).
The reactionaries in the GOP will immediately start trying to prevent this from happening, of course.
Only the ones that aren’t already invested in it.
I don’t smoke, but I don’t care what you do to your own bodies as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else.
The same goes for women’s autonomy and assisted suicide. It’s your god damn body. As long as you don’t hurt anyone else. Who fucking cares.
I’m also in the same boat for AI generated porn. If it doesn’t hurt anyone, who cares.
Maybe the drug control agency should clarify that marijuana shouldn’t be consumed at beer festivals, to protect the children.
Maybe we shouldn’t make laws about what adults can do because it wouldn’t be good for children. Unless you think we shouldn’t have beer festivals, to protect the children, and no food not pureed should be available for purchase, to protect the children.
I say this as a pothead. If you’re smoking in a public area where it’s not specifically designated and there’s people there that don’t want you to, you’re an ass.
Honestly, I would have absolutely no problem with cannabis being legal but you can’t use it in public. If I can buy it, take it home and use it without fear of arrest, that’s all I ask.
To an extent, smoking in public is fine. My regular smoke spot is in a park. But I also hike 20 minutes to it explicitly because its as far away from everyone else as possible, and the wind is usually going away from them.
Maybe I’m overcautious, but I remember walking down the street as a kid and just hating the smell of cigarettes. I never found weed as bad, but I don’t want to br the asshole who’s the reason some poor 8 year is holding their breath as you walk past them.
My teenager still holds his breath as we walk by pot smokers …. Tobacco smokers are much rarer in public where we live
I was thinking public municipal streets and the like, not out in the middle of nowhere.
And honestly, I’d apply that to cigarettes too if we wouldn’t be forcing a bunch of addicted people to quit cold turkey because they can’t take smoke breaks at work.
Really the biggest thing is just having some common courtesy and being considerate of where and when you do it.
Just treat cannabis the same way we treat alcohol and I’ll be happy. It’d be nice if we had cannabis bars where I can buy it and consume it in the location.
My biggest objection to smokers is the stink. Maybe it’s not as cancerous as tobacco, but why should I be stuck with a jacket that smells like pot after walking out the entrance to my building or walking through the park? Can’t smokers (of anything) just try to be courteous of non-smokers?
I have sympathy for them because they’re kind of fucked. They’re addicted, but they can’t smoke inside, and their job only gives them a few minutes to take a smoke break, so what else can they do? I hate the smell too, but forcing an addict to just stop smoking is not fair to them either.
Sorry for making such a niche reference. I was joking about a specific tweet by a specific German politician. This was only meant for any German reading the comments.
Anytime a comment ends with “to protect the children” it’s probably a joke.
I’ve seen too many serious comments along these lines to take that as a given, unfortunately.
Soooo… reperations for the (so-called) “War On Drugs” when?
I guess this is what you do when you want to win an election, but make it still look close.
This isn’t a new position for Biden with regards to his presidency. Here’s his statements on it over 4 years ago in Feb 2020:
Biden’s campaign told POLITICO that in his remarks on the recording, he was simply “restating his cannabis policy,” which includes eliminating criminal penalties linked to marijuana, erasing marijuana-related criminal records and “letting states set their own policies regarding legalization of recreational marijuana while further effort is made to study the effects of cannabis use.”
eliminating criminal penalties linked to marijuana
If he wanted to do that he’d have pushed his AG to deschedule it entirely, so this really just documents another thing Biden lied about to get elected
e; added a link
If he wanted to do that he’d have pushed his AG to deschedule it entirely
The attorney general doesn’t set the drug classification level, that’s the DEA. This is power was established by a law passed by congress, so if Biden had his AG try to overrule that some states would sue and the Supreme Court would clearly side with them. He could have his AG refuse to prosecute any cannabis crimes, but that would immediately be undone the next time a conservative AG takes over and prosecutes everyone who got a pass now. Also, they’ve already been ignoring any cannabis prosecutions where it’s someone following state law.
Apart from congress passing a law legalizing cannabis (which is not possible with the republican house, not to mention most of the senate) having the DEA reschedule it is the only “permanent” path forward. And it has to be done to the letter of the law because you know some republican states will challenge this move.
