There, exacly what you want.
Here’s a more budget one.

GPD has been making “mini laptops” for a long while, now they try to make similar gaming handheld.
I’m not sponoered nor I’ve bought this for myself. (yet)

Reminds me of Death Note,
Except it’s not a game.

Well, that doesn’t sound civil or lawful at all and more like kindoms of the dark ages degree of “rules” where it doesn’t apply to a choosen few.

If Meta and other bigcorps that support the US goverment get the special “avoid-judgment” card and you face punishment then there’s no law, only bigotry.

That would encourage individuals and small groups to keep their activites a secret (go anonymous) and break the law whenever they can,
because the “king and his followers” don’t follow their own “rules”.

The US is not only getting dystopian, they’re commiting primitive mistakes.

Just…
Don’t let them deceive you;

If you must use deceitful software like Gmail, Whatsapp, Discord, office or whatever, just try your best not to leak your personal data on them, and if you can hinder the tracking, do so.

If you can use other (preferably FOSS) software, do so, there’s plenty of solutions out there and most of them are free, and sometimes selfhost-able.

Google, Meta, Microsoft or whatever corp can lie about security or privacy all they want, but in the end, they only fool themself thinking their monetary practices aren’t obvious and they can fool everyone, trust is a hard thing to earn and they can’t earn it with fraud.

The product mostly show itself, and you have to go around it to know what’s it’s deal, if you prefer to not do so, you can search if any security researcher or analyst did investigate the product; For example Google claims Chrome browser is “safe” and “secure” dispute them giving so much trackable APIs for websites, and having a horrable default permissions, and don’t forget the “Manifest V3” transition just to remove ads (and trackers) blockers like uBlock Origin.
You don’t need solid proof to know what is what.

And then you just type " Foss Chrome Alternatives" or “Private Browsers” on a search engine like DDG where you can find many articles to help you find one (like this) and you’d be done.

Forget about ““Others”” right now, your well-being matters the most.

Again, as I said, whatsapp doesn’t feel like a genuine messenger app as much as an oversimplified garbage made for tracking users on the background for profiting.
Even the deal of “giving” Llama LLMs (Meta AI) to everyone feels sketchy and look abusive the way it is pushed to users.

Likewise all of meta’s services, the only catch with whatsapp that it used to be good and it’s a well-spread application, that’s why they bought it instead of improving FB’s messenger, as meta want to benefit of it’s naive userbase who think whatsapp is “As fine as ever”;

To you, publicity is nothing important and it doesn’t make a good product, to meta however, publicity is “everything” and it shall be all-time high, they have more analytical data about their userbase and have a good idea of what they would do and what decision they would take.

Yes, but how would you know Meta doesn’t have a copy of your encryption key (ex: when you sign up) and keeps a copy of your encrypted messages somewhere?
AFAIK your encryption key resides as whatsapp’s data folder but since whatsapp is closed-source you can’t guarantee that whatsapp gave the encryption key to Meta’s server at some point when it was created; (or it was created on their servers and sent to your device.)

One would just assume the encryption key is made on your device and never sent to Meta and all the E2EE messages aren’t kept on Meta’s server after they are sent.

Again, Meta is a company that is profiting on targeted advetising and selling user data, how would whatsapp be a free service without any profit?

Also, Here’s someone who saw their whatsapp chat used for targeted ads on them in case you have doubt.

As much as I’d like to favor foss and federated messenger apps, telegram isn’t as much garbage as whatsapp:

1.The client is somewhat open source and have forks like Forkgram, Materialgram and unoffical clients like Telegrand.
2. Telegram isn’t E2EE by default but at least it doesn’t lie about it and have E2EE secret chat when nessesary, that means crucial chats stay on your device and the rest stay on their database recoverable and syncable across devices.
(Yes, whatsapp supposedly is E2EE but we can’t know for sure, it’s closed-source.)
3. You can use telegram as a cloud service with only 2GB per file limit, unlike whatsapp.
(There’s even a third-party app that utilise this as a cloud gallery.)
4. Even tho telegram has ads in large channels, telegram isn’t funded by a greedy big-corp and it doesn’t datamine you, ads are based on the channel’s topic.

Yes, in terms of privacy, telegram isn’t the best option, Signal, Session, XMPP, Matrix, or SimpleX have better privacy features, less linkability and E2EE by default but telegram is very mainstream and got more publicity, making it the whatsapp alternative it advertises itself as-is.
Publicity doesn’t make a better messenger app, but for what it tries to do, it’s adoptable for simple users, doubles as cloud storage and is more secure than the garbage being whatsapp.

Immigrating users to different apps is a headache on it’s own, but if they know of telegram and it’s not privacy invasive, that’s not bad.

Peviously posted on an another lemmy community.

Imagine if they put all that money into developing a decent product that might return some actual revenue.

Nah, let use all these PC components for something wasteful.

I ended up writing so much that I made an essay long reply.
Sorry for the inconvince & wait…

Yes, that makes it more comparable to MicroOS, which does the same with podman.
MicroOS is based on a more mainstream system but it’s still immutable with transactional updates.
What I’m trying to ask is if the project’s goal / development is being more MicroOS or more Proxmox Linux? & whether it tries be a replacement or a different workflow all together?
I see that there’s a Migration Manager in beta as an install option to switch from vmware ESXi, so I wonder if other OS-level hypervisors are in the roadmap.

I know this is supposed to be compared with Vmware ESXi &or Proxmox but exclusively made for linux containers, so…
How well can it compare with MicroOS & CoreOS which rely podman instead?
I’ve never seen a detailed comparison between podman & incus in term of resource usage nor performance, just that podman supports docker compose & it’s images.

Yeah that’s nice, but that premise & use-case is already delivered,
Session does all of that, just in their own “tor-like” network;

Also session is a fork of signal without the need of a phone number, you get an “Account IDs” instantly.

Cwtch is doing the same on the Tor network itself, which is great, if tor’s speed / performance is dealt with…

So, what does Cwtch do extra?? Also does it (Smoothly) support obfs4 bridges for firewalled users?

Also, website lacks some technical details, like being a rewrite (& extention of) of Ricochet as stated in their repo & Security Handbook unlike their website’s homepage saying “The Cwtch protocol”…
But the Docs seems nice & the whole app would be a good option next to session, just wha else it offers?

Hey!
Where’s invidious?? the option to self-host your web yt client??
Or just using yt-dlp?

(tho, I lightly use yt nowadays, the content is getting satire…)

So more ppl are re-purposing old, legacy win7 machines despite security risk…
Completely clueless about anything linux or floss in that matter wether even if there where lighter distros with better hardware support & enough apps for everyday office needs & more.

Like win7 can’t even run any UWP apps, photoshop or steam anymore.
It’s great livin’ in 2025

Completely out of topic but,
I just noticed that this post has more comments than upvoted 🤣

:O uhhhhm, Great!! 👍 Don’t mind me, I accidentally wrote a whole blog

WARNING: this reply have 2 ounces of opinion-like ““facts””, a pinch of logic that make 0 sense & a whole bottle of chunky post,
Read, at your own warrenty…

Of course, signal, molly&unipush or even threema or anything more practical / security-audited is more worthy of your phone number and storing your data in an encrypted form,
I’d recommend conversation or matrix even more so they don’t require a phone number(but for some reason, they’re more scarce in usage)

Since messaging apps have to do with, well, messaging people & socializing, going to a person that doesn’t have your app & genteelly asks them to install an app is an inconvenience that people want to avoid…

Don’t get me wrong, I’d spend an hour talking messaging apps their differencies & cons but, as far as I’m aware, most non-tech invested ppl would consider this “dead-time” and would rather already text on the “avaliable app”

So, instead, you’d preinstall “mainstream” apps to not even mention it and start texting instandly since you’re usually expected to have it (pre)installed. (i remember whatsapp and fb-messanger being preinstalled on some vendors)

This or use imessage & make them question their existence :) Even on android

To the best of my knowledge, the top “mainstream” apps out there are:
whatsapp, telegram, discord (yes, DiScOaRd), imessage and sadly, facebook messanger.

(I know signal is getting recognised in “mainstream” & getting more adoption, but for some reason, I don’t see ppl installing it because it’s not “that” viral to have enough contacts or it would go unoticed by them because “muh FBI and privacy controversies are too creepy” )

most ppl are aware of these apps and their mass adoptions so they wouldn’t even bother and just get it done with or install the app already.

Out of these options only 2 are actually viable for secure & private messaging especially for Floss: Telegram, for being “transparent” & having it’s source avaliable for security auditing. imessage: for being E2EE encrypted by default with The Manufactureᵀᴹ showing some dedication about the anonimity & security of the product.

Telegram don’t E2EE by default, but you can just start a secret chat that would be private, at least they allowed for foss, third-party clients & made their own “proxy” while encoraging VPNs,

imessage can’t be really called floss because the offical client isn’t & is also gate-limited by The Manufactureᵀᴹ , but at least it has a foss unoffical client that still faily usable (with the compromise of needing MacOS “installed & certified” or paying for an access token.

Outside of this, there’s really no scope for consideration, most messaging apps that made it to “mainstream” ether doesn’t care about their users securities & would actively report anything big bros for " the general safety of the userbase" or be a hidden honeypot that collect dats & sell it to advertisers while lying about it. (even whatsapp does that & think we’re dumbies),

When one starts to pick for messaging applications, there’s no “choice”, “consideration” or even the qualities to think if it genually a good platform, you’re left with only dedication to utilize a messaging app for what it offers & push your circle of people to join you there…

You may convince your friends, but you can’t convince your coworker, team, boss, partner of a project, your online fellas or even your family memebers depending on their tech literacy.

OP didn’t consider ditching whatsapp, instead, they considered methods to hinder whatsapp’s privacy violations & telemetry, I’m not OP but, that’s seemingly the case;

Even if they run whatsapp on an sandboxed, private space & use a 20 yr-old trash phone, running whatsapp at all on android is a risk since android has lots of APIs that provides device metadata that can be used to uniquely profile users & fingerprint them.

I can be wrong, but I see only 2 actions OP can do:

1. Utilize whatsapp web (& android vm to scan) to setup a bridging server / service (like matrix-bridge or beeper & make devices connect to it (port forward, local “vpn” or beeper) or,
2. Push their circule of people to use an another “mainstream” platform OP can trust…

Sometimes, having online conversation can be totally inconvenient or tiresome, not only because of whom, but how, this is one of them…

I don’t like telegram at all, especially so with the latest policy change but, it’s easier.

I see,
But at this rate, you gonna always make sure whatsapp runs on a VPN AND behind a kill switch so it doesn’t leak,

also maybe you’re interested in using tailscale or netbird to skip the port forwarding / domain hassle so you can connect to your matrix server and use the bridge in minutes.

There’s a new foss netbird client for android if it satisfies.

Cool, especially more so on PWA.
But I’d still recommend having ironfox for general browsing & not throwing privacy to the window.

(You won’t believe it but, I just wrote a blog-size reply and accidently deleted it for trying to put it on a pastebin service…)