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Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•"And you people, you're all astronauts on... some kind of star trek?" James Cromwell announced for STLV to celebrate the 30th anniversary of First Contact.English
12·16 hours agoA fan convention, formerly known as Star Trek Las Vegas, now known as ST:LV Trek to Vegas ever since they lost the official license.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Tim Russ And Robert Duncan McNeill To Reprise Their ‘Star Trek: Voyager’ Roles In ‘Across The Unknown’ GameEnglish
1·16 hours agoFinally, the branching storylines we’ve been demanding!
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
3·1 day agoI don’t think it’s unreasonable to hold onto a belief that things will not always just continue to be shitty forever.
Neither does Star Trek. But neither the franchise nor I are so naive that we think that there’s a “mission accomplished” state in which bad things don’t happen any more.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
51·1 day agoPersonally, I think the message of “things could be fine without struggle or setbacks” would go up like a lead balloon in the year 2026 (or really, any year since at least 2014, probably much earlier). I don’t see anything inspirational or hopeful when it seems like pure fantasy.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
8·1 day agoyeah but thats different
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Preview Episode 6 Of ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’ With 10 New Images From “Come, Let’s Away”English
3·2 days agoThe title is “Come, Let’s Away”, presumably from King Lear Act V, Scene III.
No, no, no, no! Come, let’s away to prison:
We two alone will sing like birds i’ the cage:
When thou dost ask me blessing, I’ll kneel down,
And ask of thee forgiveness: so we’ll live,
And pray, and sing, and tell old tales, and laugh
At gilded butterflies, and hear poor rogues
Talk of court news; and we’ll talk with them too,
Who loses and who wins; who’s in, who’s out;
And take upon’s the mystery of things,
As if we were God’s spies: and we’ll wear out,
In a wall’d prison, packs and sects of great ones,
That ebb and flow by the moon.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
53·2 days agoSo you’re just advocating for a different system of policing, which does not at all contradict what I originally said. Cool.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Preview Episode 6 Of ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’ With 10 New Images From “Come, Let’s Away”English
4·2 days agoDuring the cadets’ first training mission on an abandoned ship, they encounter a dangerous new enemy. As our cadets fight for survival, Nahla must risk everything to save them by seeking help from an unexpected, untrustworthy, source.
I was just thinking that it’s about time we returned to the Nus Braka plot, so we’ll see if he’s the “unexpected, untrustworthy, source.”
It looks like we might get to see more of the War College kids, which I think is a good thing.
Any thoughts about the abandoned ship that they’re visiting?

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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
8·2 days agoor put him next to Tom Paris or Kassidy Yates in a Penal Colony with an ankle monitor.
Unfortunately, Earth was still independent at that time, so New Zealand is out of the question.
Bring us…Space New Zealand!
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
102·2 days agoYeah, someone summed it up very well elsewhere in the thread: “utopia” describes an ideal to strive toward, but is inherently unachievable, if only because you will never find two people who have the same utopic vision.
Unless “utopia” includes some sort of system for forcing everyone to think alike… 🤔
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
91·2 days agoIf you can offer a compelling argument about how those other 98% were more fair and just, and can outline exactly what that better system was, I’m all ears.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
6·2 days agoIt’s an interesting idea, but it also tiptoes right up to the line of “neighbours spying on each other on behalf of the state” - not great!
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
7·2 days agoThere’s a difference between a trial and a sentencing.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
151·2 days agoI certainly am not a fan of policework as it is currently, commonly conducted, but I have a hard time imagining a society that has laws, but doesn’t have a dedicated system to uphold those laws that involves some kind of police.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Why do they turn Federation into a dystopia?English
381·2 days agoI think it’s extremely disingenuous to equate “bad things happening sometimes” with “dystopia.”
The point of everything you mentioned (except for the police in '09, which you don’t actually seem to have an issue with aside from the fact that they exist?) is that these things can be overcome, which is precisely the opposite of a dystopian setting.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•What's your preferred version to watch Deep Space Nine? Is AI upscale worth it?English
7·3 days agoYeah, personally I prefer the best available version of the original footage.
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Star Trek Social Club@startrek.website•Interview: Tawny Newsome On “Gargantuan Task” To Give DS9 “Resolution” On ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’English
7·4 days agoGreat. Read the interview, and if there’s any aspect of it you feel you need to add thoughts to, go ahead and do it. And if you don’t have anything to add, (a) that doesn’t mean it’s not worth sharing, and (b) you can just bypass the thread entirely.
It’s not on OPs to tell people what aspects of an article to talk about, and in many cases, I would argue that it’s not appropriate to try.
I don’t appreciate it anymore than a friend shoving a magazine in my face
You can’t possibly think that someone posting something online is analogous to approaching you and shoving something in your face. Please tell me you can tell the difference.



















Yeah, it’s only the Vulcan encounter in the MU episode that’s archive footage, with a stand-in wielding the shotgun.