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I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

Maybe provide a link to an article on the internet instead of a link to a discord chat.

Well, I suppose with my suggestion, which in my view is the correct path they should have taken, any alt account would also have to be a paid subscriber to Reddit if they wanted to access the full API with that account. I don’t really see much justification to support alt accounts on the same subscription.

And you hit the nail on the head about Reddit trying to make the third party app developers be payment middlemen. It made zero sense to me if it wasn’t for greed or to squeeze out those app developers so they could force their user base to their own mobile application which was considerably inferior at the time, but allowed Reddit to show advertisements.

It was apparent to me that they did this to make their impending IPO more appealing to potential investors because it shows that “line goes up” — which is the only thing investors care about and why the enshittification of good things always happens.

If you can feel my bitterness, it’s because I deleted my 15-year Reddit account in July 2023 that had a couple of posts during the account lifetime that made it to the front page. Which, for a nobody like me, was kind-of cool. However, while I’m not over Spez being a greedy piece of crap, I am quite over being on Reddit and, like you, am very happy to be a part of the Fediverse!

No, they made the third party app developers pay the license fees, not the users. If they changed that since I left, then that I’m ignorant of. It made zero sense to force payment from the developers and every sense to simply create a two-tiered API where maybe only a read-only front page works (no commenting) unless you’re a paid subscriber to Reddit, which could be available via an authorization scheme on the logged-in user. It’s simple to do. But they decided (at the time) to screw over the third party developers directly by forcing them to pay.

Thing is, even Christian (the guy who made Apollo) said a nominal fee makes sense and he would have been fine paying that, but he would have had to pay literal millions of dollars within like a month’s notice in order to keep going, and have to pass that exorbitant cost onto his users who ALREADY paid him for yearly subscriptions/etc.

Simply put: Reddit should only have charged users directly, via subscription to Reddit, in order to use a fully-featured API irrespective of which client they use it through.

Spez is a greedy piece of garbage.

The only way I’ll ever rejoin Reddit is if they fire that piece of shit, Spez, and every other piece of shit who had a hand in the monetization of their API access which destroyed third party apps like Apollo; and if they change that monetization, either making it free or making it so you have to be a paid Reddit subscriber to have expanded API access.

They did the whole thing with their API completely backwards, on purpose, to shut out the third party apps – when they could have still been able to make money by doing it properly and not alienating a lot of their userbase.

And now that Reddit is effectively a right-wing cesspool of lies and bullshit, just like Twitter has become, even if they fix what they broke, it may not be worth rejoining.

In the United States, it’s simple: the Constitution does not lay out any provision for such a recall. For better or worse, and it’s most certainly worse right now, the only way the removal of a person in Congress can happen is if the respective body itself expels the person (Senators to remove a Senator, House to remove a Representative), the person resigns, or the person dies. And expulsion has a fairly high bar to overcome.

Fuck Nazis and fascists.  I hope they get the shit beat out of them the moment they try to salute.

I assume we’re not going to have elections this year because “bad people”.

Fuck that.  And fuck anyone who tries.  And accepting such an event without fighting for our rights is a desecration to every person who died to protect those rights for us.  Our children deserve better and if it’s our time to fight, then we fight.

That’s because I’m old and I’m guessing you’re not :D But gigastasio has the answer.

There is no Dana…only Zuul!

Literally nothing. The DOJ is corrupt. Congress has no spine or teeth. Nothing will change until they all die, or they’re all voted out, and maybe not even then.

Just waiting for that inevitable heart attack…

EDIT>> And apparently I’m not the only one who may have issues with their current methodologies for using docker compose: https://github.com/stoatchat/self-hosted/issues/176

EDIT 2>> I tried Stoat using their hosted service (not self-hosting), and it leaves a lot to be desired as it relates to roles/permissions. I figure it’s a good six months or more away from being a viable alternative to Discord. It’s a good start, though.

Thanks for the reminder of that!

I’ve heard of it, but hadn’t yet looked into it much. I see this: https://github.com/stoatchat/self-hosted . It seems promising, I just wish it was a simple docker compose file with parameters (such as domain name/config file volume path/etc), so I can easily run it on UnRAID. But it’s requesting I run a shell script to generate some configuration file which could have been simple docker compose parameters. Therefore, in its current form, it requires I run docker compose via a shell that has the repo cloned.

And in order to do it a more proper way, in my opinion, I’d have to alter the compose file to change the “volumes” for many of the defined services to point to UnRAID’s appdata location. Every bit of this could have simply been environment variables within the compose file. And it would be ideal if the compose file could be set up to allow for external docker services that already exist (such as mongodb, redis, and rabbitmq). And it should expect reverse proxy hosting by default, not be the exception, again in my opinion.

I get that it’s open source and I could submit a pull request to do all I’d want, I’m just looking for a quick alternative to Discord without this level of effort. None seem to exist currently, at least for self-hosting. So I’ll continue looking into this when I decide to put in the effort for it. But I do appreciate your suggestion and may indeed go down this path soon.

I know Teamspeak 6 is in beta, so I get it. But boy when I tried it, it was just awful. It took me literal minutes just to figure out how to disconnect from the voice server. They desperately need to hire someone for UX who has actual experience in, you know, design.

And getting Matrix (Synapse) to run is about as teeth-pulling as getting an Oracle database system to run back in 2001.

I don’t like what Discord is doing. And I’ll likely find some alternative if I can convince others to also join me, but there simply is no viable alternative that gives the exact level of experience that Discord does (from a feature point of view and a UI/UX point of view).

And yes, I’ve tried Fluxer. It’s a good start, but still needs a lot of work, which the maintainer says is ongoing (work such as making self-hosting viable, etc). While I like the UI/UX of Fluxer, I am concerned that its UI is effectively a direct copy of Discord from a few years ago and I don’t know if Discord would be legally able to do something about this. Perhaps it’s all fine, and if so, I wish Fluxer immense success at being that viable Discord alternative, and I will keep an eye on this project.

I don’t have a wide audience, I’m just a speck in a sea of the internet.

But here you go, DHS. FUCK ICE. FUCK THEIR FASCISM AND AUTHORITARIAN BULLSHIT. FUCK THEIR COWARDICE. FUCK EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM.

Please. I dare you to subpoena me.

I see, thank you. I withdraw my comment since the server repo certainly looks more maintained. The client repo seems stale, but the software does seem to be getting work on it, so that’s great!

Doesn’t seem terribly well-maintained.

EDIT>> As was properly pointed out to me, I was judging based on the wrong repo. The server repo indeed has work being done on it, so it looks like this is getting updates and moving forward.

Fuck spez. That’s why.

Diablo and Diablo 2 entered the chat.

I’m right there with you. I miss having 6v6 with like half the characters they have now (so I can actually learn them all), with Jeff Kaplan keeping me excited to play. What a fun time that was.