• village604
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    12 hours ago

    I think people assume I’m saying that white people are victims of systemic racism, which is not at all what I said.

    • orlyowl@piefed.ca
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      12 hours ago

      I don’t have the sociological definition of racism at my fingertips, but IIRC it includes the need for a power imbalance, which is generally why people push back when folks say that minority groups can be racist against against white people. Our entire country was (arguably still is to a large degree) set up to where there is a huge power imbalance in favor of white people.

      If you just want to make the very real point that white people are victims of bigotry also sometimes, rather than get into this repetitive debate about whether there can be racism against white people, IMO you can just say “bigotry” or “racial prejudice” and carry the same message you intend to without having to have this tired debate about whether white people can experience racism.

      Unless you aren’t tired of the tired debate, but I know I sure am.

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      9 hours ago

      This is like having a conversation about menstruation, and then men being like, “I get cuts sometimes”.

      No one fucking cares, if you’re talking about white racism, you’re just being self centered.

    • Tiral@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      People don’t care, they make up whatever they want to feel good about themselves. The definition of “racism” has no specific race, it’s like murder, it’s murder if xyz criteria are met.

      If an African American doesn’t hire ANYONE based off race/skin color, it’s racism, period. Even if it’s other African Americas. Caucasians aren’t magically excluded regardless of how bad you want them to be. Typically, at least in my experience in education, most African Americans are happy with racism as long as it’s in their benifit, because they have some weird ass belief that it’s impossible for them to be racist somehow.