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Dessalines to Memes@lemmy.ml • 2 months ago

Ah yes the "enlightened" democracies

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Ah yes the "enlightened" democracies

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Dessalines to Memes@lemmy.ml • 2 months ago
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  • @testfactor@lemmy.world
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    4•2 months ago

    From the US response:

    That said, the United States continues to oppose the Russian Federation’s manipulation of the UN system to spread disinformation. This resolution is a glaring example by Russia to further its contemporary geopolitical aims by invoking the Holocaust and the Second World War to malign countries that rightfully reject celebration of their years of brutal domination by the Soviet Union. This is all the more egregious now when Russia seeks to use a false accusation of Nazism to try to justify its unconscionable ongoing brutality against the people of Ukraine. The Russian Federation’s resolution is not a serious effort to combat Nazism, antisemitism, racism, or xenophobia – all of which are abhorrent and unacceptable. On the contrary, Russia’s attempts to instrumentalize the history of the Holocaust and the Second World War to justify Russia’s aggression is an affront to Holocaust victims and to all who fought against Nazism. This resolution is a shameful political ploy. It is a thinly veiled effort to justify Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine.

    Source: https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-for-the-third-committee-resolution-on-combating-glorification-of-nazism/

    Seems like this was just Russian apologia to support their invasion of the Ukraine. Voting against doesn’t seem unreasonable in that context.

    • davel [he/him]
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      This is all the more egregious now when Russia seeks to use a false accusation of Nazism to try to justify its unconscionable ongoing brutality against the people of Ukraine.

      • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
      • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
      • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
      • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
      • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
      • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
      • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
      • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
      • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
      • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
      • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
      • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
      • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
      • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
      • Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
      • NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
      • @DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world
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        1•2 months ago

        and I’m sure that from, say, 1991 to 2021, there were a lot of pictures of fascists, nazis, and other far-right riff-raff taken in Russia.

      • @aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee
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        You will notice that all of these stories are after 2014 though. The fascist movements was formed quite rapidly, but it was still in response to aggression by the Russian government and military, pardon, the Donetsk “miners and tractor drivers”. These new fascists (Azov batallion a prime example ) were/are made up of Russian speakers from eastern Ukraine!! Not the stereotypical russophobes from lviv.

        Gee I wonder what actions of the Russian military or their “polite people” in eastern Ukraine might have led to this??

        • davel [he/him]
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          3•2 months ago

          The Banderite fascists didn’t suddenly spring into existence at the moment of their 2014 coup. They go all the way back to the 1930s.

          • @aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee
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            ukrainian nationalism (including its heinous forms) goes at least as far back as the russian revolution/civil war, and ideologically originated in late 19th century. but again, it was developed in response to the no less vicious russian imperialism

      • @hubobes@sh.itjust.works
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        What? You mean there is not a single country without Nazis? Oh the heavens. Nazi groups in Ukraine are still an issue (as they are everywhere) but maybe something happened that was more important. Don’t know what though.

        • @m532@lemmygrad.ml
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          9•2 months ago

          Usa coup, 2014

    • DessalinesOP
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      Damn, all of south america, africa, and asia are russian bots now. /s

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