• @CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml
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    4621 days ago

    It’s interesting that liberals and fascists have also not liked this part specifically. Somehow depicting the empire as more than a force that makes trains run on time has had an impact on cultural discourses and ruffled feathers across political and ideological lines. And since the assailant is killed and the crime is violently refused by a lone woman, it is difficult to invent a victim narrative or a savior narrative to relieve the tension of depicting imperialism in this way.

    Furthermore, I think the idea that Andor works to make the empire seem gritty misses how mundane the empire is shown. The show isn’t trying to get gritty. It’s saying that SV is a mundane and obvious part of empire building. Leaving it out carries its own risks, just as depicting it carries other risks.

    • D61 [any]
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      521 days ago

      … but its also not necessary to depict it.

      Is the torture scene on Ferrix not enough deeply personal abuse?

      • S4ck [none/use name]
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        821 days ago

        It’s also not necessary to depict resource extraction and genocide because that would be a difficult topic also. They should just focus on making more Ashoka I guess.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      21 days ago

      It’s saying that SV is a mundane and obvious part of empire building. Leaving it out carries its own risks, just as depicting it carries other risks.

      Well you see akshually in my toy empire it shows real empire chews people up like you, I love toy empire media. I will defend this use of “art” in my toy empire at the expense of limiting access to media for actual victims. I’m so glad toy empire show is so popular I can’t stop talking about it I hope they make more and get more profit

      ☝️🤓

      • HelluvaBottomCarter [comrade/them]
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        3421 days ago

        Is this aimed at your fellow hexbears? Some of us are SA victims and it would be really shitty to label us as childish SA enthusiasts just because you’ve spent the past 3 years quietly seething over disney slop being popular on a communist website.

        • kristina [she/her]
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          021 days ago

          What are you arguing for? Go back to enjoying SV references in almost every franchise on TV?

          • Abracadaniel [he/him]
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            1721 days ago

            They’re arguing the characterisation of it as a

            garbage show that uses SV to make itself seem “serious” and “gritty”

            And getting carried away I think

      • @CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml
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        21 days ago

        Maybe I should treat survivers as damaged people who can’t cope with the realities of empire. Perhaps that will show how ethical and measured of a person I am for making trauma the essential variable that determines your value. Afterall it’s all make believe. It’s just a commodity. You don’t exist and neither do I. Why should I care how imperialism is depicted?