• @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 hours ago

    Why would they “prove” something that’s completely obvious?

    The burden of proof is on the grifters who have overwhelmingly been making false claims and distorting language for decades.

    • TheRealKuni
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      2414 hours ago

      Why would they “prove” something that’s completely obvious?

      I don’t want to be critical, but I think if you step back a bit and look and what you’re saying, you’re asking why we would bother to experiment and prove what we think we know.

      That’s a perfectly normal and reasonable scientific pursuit. Yes, in a rational society the burden of proof would be on the grifters, but that’s never how it actually works. It’s always the doctors disproving the cure-all, not the snake oil salesmen failing to prove their own prove their own product.

      There is value in this research, even if it fits what you already believe on the subject. I would think you would be thrilled to have your hypothesis confirmed.

    • @yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
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      16 hours ago

      They’re just using the terminology that’s widespread in the field. In a sense, the paper’s purpose is to prove that this terminology is unsuitable.

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        I understand that people in this “field” regularly use pseudo-scientific language (I actually deleted that part of my comment).

        But the terminology has never been suitable so it shouldn’t be used in the first place. It pre-supposes the hypothesis that they’re supposedly “disproving”. They’re feeding into the grift because that’s what the field is. That’s how they all get paid the big bucks.

    • TryingSomethingNew
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      914 hours ago

      Not when large swaths of people are being told to use it everyday. Upper management has bought in on it.

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        Yep. I’m retired now, but before retirement a month or so ago, I was working on a project that relied on several hundred people back in 2020. “Why can’t AI do it?”

        The people I worked with are continuing the research and putting it up against the human coders, but…there was definitely an element of “AI can do that, we won’t need people” next time. I sincerely hope management listens to reason. Our decisions would lead to potentially firing people, so I think we were able to push back on the “AI can make all of these decisions”…for now.

        The AI people were all in, they were ready to build an interface that told the human what the AI would recommend for each item. Errrm, no, that’s not how an independent test works. We had to reel them back in.