• @AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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      31 day ago

      I’m afraid I don’t follow you. If homelessness was abolished and essentially everyone in a country with 300 million people was housed, why can’t I say that housing was solved?

      • @Jax@sh.itjust.works
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        Incredible!

        If only we applied your thought process to other areas.

        For example, did you know that the Soviet Union had less gun violence than the United States does? This must mean we should be more like the Soviet Union!

        No, for what it’s worth, no we should not be more like the Soviet Union. They used gun control to quell rebellion and killed millions. Numbers do not paint the picture you think they do, they represent what was recorded. There are plenty of reasons to question those records, if you actually take the time to think about it.

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          48 minutes ago

          You couldn’t resist the temptation to sneak in that completely irrelevant bit about “gun control”. You’ve overplayed your hand.

        • @AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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          223 hours ago

          They used gun control to quell rebellion and killed millions

          What historical event in particular are you talking about?

          There are plenty of reasons to question those records

          Which records in particular are you talking about? The book I used as a source uses almost exclusively western studies as sources.

          No, for what it’s worth, no we should not be more like the Soviet Union

          Depends? I’m not saying “let’s replicate every policy of the Soviet Union”, but they did guarantee housing for everyone, free and quality education to the highest level, free healthcare for everyone, and public retirement plans for every individual. Why wouldn’t you want to be more like those things?

          • @Jax@sh.itjust.works
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            And their entire system fucking collapsed. And yes, the U.S. is a part of the reason for that collapse — but if you’re seriously sitting here trying to suggest it was the reason, you are actually fucking dumb. Like, go talk to someone that lived in the Soviet Union — dumb.

            Let me make this clear, I’m not giving you a history lesson — I’m also not sifting through Eastern sources because I’m not a dipshit. I shouldn’t have to explain why a govt. that wantonly murders the people that work for it probably doesn’t have records you can trust.

            I’ll be trusting Western sources. Not dipshits on Lemmy who have circlejerked on .ml for too long. Fuckin flat earth wannabes.

            • @AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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              15 hours ago

              If you want western sources, go ahead and look through the sources of Albert Szymanski’s “Human Rights in the Soviet Union”, you’ll be surprised. Go ahead and do your reading if you so care about sources.

              And their entire system fucking collapsed

              Less collapsed and more illegally and antidemocratically dissolved against the wishes of the majority or Soviet peoples as of the Soviet permanence referendum. The Soviet Union survived 27 million deaths in their struggle against Nazism, it didn’t “collapse” because muh economy and housing.

              Regardless: I’m not necessarily arguing for the organization of the US state in a similar fashion to that of the USSR, I’m giving you historical sources on countries which effectively SOLVED HOMELESSNES and rent pricing, as per the post. Maybe the US could copy some of that policy without copying the rest if you don’t wanna?