• barrbaric [he/him]English
    26•1 year ago

    IIRC Amazon has ludicrous turnover in their warehouses so the “do you want to gamble on better conditions?” point seems kind of ineffective. Like okay do I want to maybe get better conditions or definitely burn out in 4 months and quit?

      • Mardoniush [she/her]English
        5•1 year ago

        I know people who’ve tried to salt in these warehouses and, well, even here it’s hard to physically find the time and energy. They actually use pathing algorithms that reduce efficiency to prevent employees from having too much contact.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]English
      9•1 year ago

      A union is a new concept for most marginal workers. This means that for them to make the leap, they’ve got to overcome their uncertainty. If a company can cast even a little doubt, it can be tremendously effective.

      The traditional way to overcome this is to have coworkers be the ones advocating for a union, not staff. This is really hard at Amazon because of the high turnover. If you look at JFK8, Smalls was a manager, i.e., one of the only people not turning over every 3 months.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]English
      2•1 year ago

      high turnover rate is actually good for the capitalists. It means a large reserve army of labor. it means a fresh supply of scabs. it means people will quit ‘‘before’’ they even ‘‘try’’ to unionize because they’ve been taught that’s what you do when a job sucks, you quit and get a new one that also sucks, and so on to infinity. Quitting will ‘‘always’’ be easier than unionizing, and people only unionize when they think “this is my job, I’m going to be here for a long time.” Unions were strongest when people worked in the same company their whole lives. The more mobile and nomadic the work force, the easier capital is able to dissuade unionization efforts.

  • flan [they/them]English
    25•1 year ago

    No guarantees on pay, benefits, or work rules

    isnt this literally the thing unions are meant to solve? What kind of reverse psychology is this?

  • Umechan [he/him]English
    20•1 year ago

    I hope this backfires. They’re one of the richest companies in the world and the most notorious for treating their workers like shit. Anything they claim is bad for their workers will almost certainly be good for them. I hope people see through this.

    The “no guarantees” part is also very telling. It’s like they’re admitting that they’ll do whatever they can to avoid improving pay and conditions even if the workers start a union.

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]English
    8•1 year ago

    How are people dumb enough to realize “of course the corporation would tell you not to unionize against them”?

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]English
      3•1 year ago

      “No guarantee on pay” is a threat. Workers know who benefits from a union and who loses, Amazon is just threatening to cut pay and benefits if they organize.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]English
    5•1 year ago

    I know what the anti-union line is, and I know how it’s supposed to be effective, but does anyone see this shit and think “oh, yeah, I definitely trust my manager to give a shit about even one request I have.” Like I don’t think I’ve ever had a job where I didn’t fantasize occasionally about my immediate superior getting hit by a car.

  • WithoutFurtherDelay [they/them]English
    2•1 year ago

    the people who design these posters should be bullied incessantly

    sure, they need to eat just like everyone else, but every measure should be taken to ensure they will quit if they can