• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    Headlines like this are a good reminder of my prime directive: Don’t donate money to political parties. Both Harris and Trump have billionaires in their corner and they don’t need your money.

    Instead, donate to your friends’ mutual aid requests or invest it in your own stocks and investments. These candidates aren’t going to do anything meaningful to change your station in life, but they will make a trillion dollars appear out of thin air overnight to avoid a major drop in the stock market and your $10-$20 could mean the difference between skipping a day of food and eating for someone you know and love.

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    Average cop starting pay is significantly more than teachers. Which one requires the education? Which one contributes more to society?

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      My firefighter/emt job I’m at 54 hours a week starts at $41k a year. That’s after getting all the certs and all the ongoing training and emt refresher classes etc. Most of us work two jobs.

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        Most of us work two jobs.

        This is what I think about every time the soundbyte about Biden creating 16,000,000 jobs is played. How many of those are second or third jobs?

        Probably most, because nothing meaningful has been done to curb inflation, price gouging on rent, and progress toward living wages.

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      Cops should be paid a lot, but the danger should be part of the job and risk. I’m thinking specifically of those Uvalde cowards who did nothing and let kids get killed. Their job should be the risk, to take the bullets, so as to save and help the innocent. That’s the risk they should take, and get paid well specifically for that.

      Many of our cops are overweight lazy traffic cops who give poor people speeding tickets who are late for their shitty job they can’t afford to be late to. Or parking wrong, or whatever.

      Teachers deserve a lot more too, way more for different reasons obviously. Unless they’re forcing some religious nonsense poison into the minds of growing kids, fuck that.

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    Unpopular opinion, teachers should make top dollar. A teaching position should easily be in the six figures. It should attract and demand the best people in their fields.

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      AS long as they’re held accountable for actually teaching at that payrate, I’m all for it. I had too many teachers that did the bare minimum to make sure we could pass the standardized test and that was it. I hated science in high school because of it and can’t get enough of it now that I can learn it from people that give a shit.

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        As long as they’re held accountable for actually teaching

        the bare minimum to make sure we could pass the standardized test

        It’s possible these two attitudes are related somehow.

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          Maybe, but some classes that could have been a slog were enjoyable because of those teachers at least trying to NOT make it purely memorization. For example, my biology(?) teacher assigned us 2 hours worth of copying down words and their definition every night. She ended up getting injured or sick and got replaced by a substitute and he had us make a model of a cell out of food and/or candy for homework. Same class, same semester, guess which one I can actually remember now because it wasn’t insufferably monotonous.

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        Working in a school district currently, that is pushing AI in a massive way. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

        There is a major push here for teachers to use it as much as possible. While I get it to a certain degree… I’m also not sure how I feel about it. Just seems like a more convent way for teachers to do less, and be less “involved”.

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    In America, we have collectively decided that we prefer our teachers to be poor and starving, that way our kids stay stupid and can be good little wage slaves.

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    We would have to first value education, and that counts for parents and home life as well.

    Instead, we’re at war with education trying to water it down as much as possible if not outright eliminate it.

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      We do value education. Look at how much people are willing to pay for private school when they can afford it.

      We just don’t value education of other people’s children. That wouldn’t be a good competitive advantage for our own spawn.

      Or so many people think. I personally love the idea of education for everyone as it means fewer people resorting to crime with no other option. But an educated populace is a threat to many powerful institutions, so they convince their sheep to vote against it.

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      Triple would just mean they would have a chance with proper savings and enjoying the perks of having disposable income while continuing to educate and create the future members of a society, that’s asking too much.

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    …in the USA.

    A key piece of information missing from the title, which made it a waste of my time.

    I don’t live in that country, and while I feel very much for the plight of any foreign education system in distress, I must focus my energy on things upon which I can affect positive change.

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    Let me pop in as a high school teacher in the US. I make decent pay, but it took me over a decade climbing the pay ladder to reach this point. It’s only been in the last five years that I’ve made enough to afford the mortgage on a house (well, prior to all of the rate hikes, but that’s another issue entirely). But there’s another problem: You’re expected to put in 10% of the value (even with first-time buyer incentives) as a down payment (I last looked with any seriousness in '22). I have yet to be able to put away 5% of the average costs in my region, much less 10%. Every time I start building back up, other costs drain most or all of that within a year or two. Unless the housing market bursts big time, I’m not likely to be able to afford a home anytime soon. Note: I would rather keep renting than take a variable-rate mortgage; the last three years have seen previously affordable mortgages with variable rates go sky-high.

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      FYI, it’s a long shot because there’s not much availability, but HUD homestore will give teachers half off the list price of a house in its “good neighbor program” (aka in a rougher neighborhood ) if you stay there for 3 years.

      In addition, I think you need lower down payments for houses in general through HUD.

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      I make decent pay, but it took me over a decade climbing the pay ladder to reach this point

      What do you consider decent pay?

      My last job had two former teachers. Good people. They switched from teaching to like entry level software testing (not “full stack”. QA engineer) and like doubled their pay.

      This was in the NYC area.

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    The wild thing is that it gets even worse at the college level. Adjuncts get like $25k per year. It’s not much better for temporary faculty, etc. It’s a steep pyramid with admins and football coaches far away at the top.

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      My side gig is teaching at a major university as part of a third-party contract with outside businesses. I’m still university faculty, so have to do all the HR training, maintain my credentials, etc, but my pay is a little different…

      The university literally doesn’t pay us for the classes. The syltudents have to pay a $215 “lab fee” directly to us that’s split between me and the business. So I get paid $107.50 person student per semester while the University gets paid about $3,000. Our business provides the staff, facilities, course materials, and even the liability insurance, so the university’s only real expenses are having the course listed and taking the tuition money.

      My official title at the University is “Lecturer : Unpaid”

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      I taught research methodology in oncology for 15.81$ in Arizona; work as a cowboy for 20/hour. It’s really bad here in AZ.

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      sustaining the American lifestyle

      TBH the “american lifestyle” is completely unsustainable and literally destroying the planet. We would be utterly doomed if the entire planet lived like the usa.

      But I’m definitely not blaming teachers or any other working people very much. It’s quite clear who’s actually profiting (cars/oil, military, billionaires, etc.).

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    Public school teachers need to be paid properly. We need to move huge chunks of funding from the National Defense to Public Schools. Not private schools, for profit schools or ‘school vouchers’ but public secular schools. We don’t need that much military to defend a nation of uneducated idiots, we need smart Americans.

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      The general problem with housing as a job benefit is that it makes you even more dependent on that particular job. It’s the same problem as with employer-provided health care.