• @Krauerking@lemy.lol
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    Oh man, every Palestinian had an ID number? Man those could have just been tattooed on every person to make sure Israel could keep track of them better.

    No idea why Israel didn’t think of that. Seems obvious to use in your fenced in area that everyone has to be carefully released from for either work or because they died.

          • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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            Is it oxidation? I thought it was a voltage control issue, where they randomly sent too much power to components and burned them out. And over time, those burnt out components and errors would compound and your CPU would essentially get Alzheimer’s.

          • @_____@lemm.ee
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            Nah. Too many Intel fanboys. I know dozens of braindead gamers who insta buy Intel because (a decade ago) Intel had the best performance. I imagine they have thousands of equally braindead customers.

          • @merthyr1831@lemmy.ml
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            Intel was struggling beyond the oxidation stuff. ARM and RISC are gonna make them obsolete even if AMD doesn’t.

            • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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              You have some good points. Their Intel “7” node isn’t even seven nanometers, their CPUs could probably heat households in Siberia, and their GPU drivers suck.

      • @acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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        To this day I don’t know why Sun didn’t run a campaign with the slogan “we didn’t help the Holocaust”. Who am I kidding, their clients are all descendants of nazis supporting the idea of an American ethnostate.

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      every American has an ID number too… I get the comparison you’re making but I don’t think birth certificates are inherently dystopian. there’s plenty of actual shit to be mad about, such as 14 pages of dead babies, without having to complain about mundane shit

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        LOL yeah I know. They actually are helpful for any developed country but seeing a document of a list of 34,000 dead humans from newborns to “old” that Palestine is trying to prove were real (because the number dead is way higher) by using the identification numbers and knowing how Israel uses their labor force and tracks them made me feel the parallels to a historical use, a little heavily.

        I kinda figured they should just go all the way with it.

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        It’s a shame that people who were historically tormented by disgusting people can turn out to be infinitely more reprehensible… I’m looking at you netanyahu you scumbag Nazi

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          Just because they share the same religion doesn’t mean they’re the same kind of people.

          That bunch in Israel have even accused a Holocaust Survivor of being an anti-semite for criticizing Israel, and most modern Israelis did not came from Western Europe. Most of them they share no other characteristic with the victims of the Holocaust than religious affiliation, certainly not being against racism or having other modern humanist values.

        • Holy shit… Never thought of it like that… But yes!! - just check out the comments referencing IBM!!! They’re still just fucking chugging along, line go up for IBM stockholders, as if it was no fucking big deal to make the very goddamn punchcards and tabulators that led so many Jews to their horrible, untimely ends in all those concentration camps. And now, I guess “business” is good again…

  • atro_city
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    They had it coming! Should’ve picked a different place to be born.

    • @FierySpectre@lemmy.world
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      Being born there is the first step to becoming terrorist scum, they had it coming!

      /s just in case if that wasn’t obvious

      • gon [he]
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        I’ve never met a Palestinian but every Palestinian I’ve ever met has been a terrorist.

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      They had it coming! Should’ve picked a different place to be born.

      They certainly should have! Poor kids. (I didn’t miss your sarcasm, just adding to it)

      Look what the older Palestinian kids have had to endure:

      • @ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        This graphic is a year old! It’s actually seventeen years since that blockade now.

        I wonder why some people there might think violence is the only thing their enemy would understand. Really a mystery.

        • @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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          There might be an updated version at the visualizing palestine website. I was happy when they updated it to add the current conflict, but that was months after it started…

  • @Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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    I hate this world and almost everyone on it. Myself most of all. 100% powerless to stop any of this. I want off this hellworld.

    • @leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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      I hear you, it’s been a brutal millennium so far and things look like they’ll get worse before they get better.

      We’re all powerless alone, and I don’t see us being able to stop the worst of what’s to come, but there’s pressure building against Israel, against capitalism, against conservatism, against the status quo.

      It’s going to be a rough ride but we need to stubbornly exist and be present and visible so that the pressure keeps building.

      • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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        We’re all powerless alone

        That’s the “funny” thing about it. ALONE we are powerless. The really really hard part is getting all of us together.

        Media in the past that wasn’t purely propaganda for the sake of manipulating the population would have achieved this simply by the reporting done. Now all they do is give cover to the assholes committing the atrocities across the world and we have to fight with each other just to convince people what is actually happening and why it’s bad…

        Divide and conquer works and it’s why we never seem to make progress. :(

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          ALONE we are powerless. The really really hard part is getting all of us together.

          Nah dawg, that’s like our one strength and even instinct. See Bregman’s Humankind, for example!

    • JaggedRobotPubes
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      Bitch unless you’re committing daily war crimes you had best at the very least hate yourself less than these monsters.

    • @LemmyAtEmLemmyAtEm@lemmy.world
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      I really feel ya. It’s insane how, short of donating as much as we can, most of us can’t really do anything but watch this shit happen. It’s a fucking mess.

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        Join your local Communist party.

        Also eat vegan /s

        Wth dude…!

  • Resol van Lemmy
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    Those children could’ve grown up to do some amazing things in many different industries (and no, terrorism is NOT one of them), but because they’re unlucky enough to be born in Gaza, they have to deal with constant bombing, lack of food and water, damages in physical and mental health, and eventually death, before they even turn 18. Sometimes it’s even abrupt and sudden.

    Has Israel not yet learned how cruel this is? And THEY’RE the ones that get all the funding to do this. Oh, but if I say anything bad about Israel then I’m “antisemitic” MY ASS. You’re killing literal children and I want the whole world to know about it.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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      That was the point of the action. Iran understands the hatred by the Israeli state for the Palestinian people (condoned, sometimes commended by western imperialist interests, particularly the British empire and the United States) only required provocation before Israel would commit atrocities that could be called a holocaust. So the Iranian intelligence state funded Hamas to cause trouble.

      And they played Netanyahu the way Martin Luther King Jr. played US police departments.

      The difference is, information from Palestine leaks out better now than it did throughout the 20th century, so the global public, especially in industrialized states, gets to look at it. We get to know what is happening and it is more frightening than we imagined.

      The horror of the German holocaust, according to our own nations and their state departments, is not what was done, but to whom.

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          Yeah, Iran made me do a genocide the way a wife made her abusive spouse do a domestic violence. More that Iran knew the Israeli administration (Netanyahu and friends) were totally eager to accelerate the genocide (it has already been happening), and provided them an easy excuse, because drunk daddy can’t help himself.

          This is why the US has been screaming at Bibi, Don’t! It’ll be just like Fallujah! It’s a trap! And Bibi couldn’t listen with that kind of temptation.

          (And yes, this is one of those hazards whenever Trump is in the White House, because Trump can’t help himself either.)

          Israel, and the current western response to Israel is laying plain for the entire international community that we are at our base, imperialists who won’t suffer non-whites or non-Christians. The US has yet to demonstrate otherwise, and in on the verge of possibly installing a one-party autocracy. Iran got all that it hoped for and more.

          • Ginny [they/she]
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            Why exactly would Iran hope for the US to be a one-party autocracy full of imperialists who won’t suffer non-whites or non-Christians?

            • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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              A lot of things.

              For one thing, Trump / Project 2025 wants to kill NATO. Trump has already sown enough distrust that Germany is looking to secure military independence from the US.

              Another thing is Trump and his companion ideologues are manipulable, as per his relations with Putin, Kim Jong Un and the Sauds. Even if they can’t turn him against Israel, they can certainly goad him into making brash decisions.

              Then there’s the matter that the MAGA Republican Party favors loyalty over principle, which scares away its own intelligentsia, and creates a brain drain. We already see the Project 2025 plan to replace government department staff (who have education and experience) with Trump and MAGA ideology loyalists (who do not), which is going to speed the regime’s plummet into corruption and decadence.

              The latter 20th century was defined by the US being the baddest dog on the field, tempered only by the USSR being right there to harrow the US and keep it busy. Now the cold war is ended, the US has just turned into a military bully for the interests of its own oligarchs. (It doesn’t help that the white Christian nationalist movement has been pushing the US towards fascist one-party autocracy since the FDR’s New Deal, as explained in Behind the Bastards two parter How the Rich Ate Christianity ).

              Genuinely free, fair states are a threat to autocrats, far more than other autocrats, so seeing the US fall to one-party autocracy is absolutely on Iran’s holiday wishlist.

              They may get it too, depending on if Trump wins the election, or his coup d’etat is successful, or civil war breaks out in the States.

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        “They made me do it” has been the main axis of Israeli Propaganda since the start and that’s just a variant of that.

        How about this alternative explanation: they’re stealing Palestinian land, want to ultimatelly steal all Palestinian land, are led by Sociopaths and Psychopaths and have an extremely racist society anchored on the kind of ethnic superiority ideas that would make Klanners blush, so they were always going to do something like this sooner or later to get rid of the rest of Palestinians and get the rest of their land and do it in the most inhuman ways because a large part, maybe even most, of Israeli society see themselves as “the chosen people”, a superior ethnicity and what the previous famous group of ethno-Fascists would call übermenschen, whilst they see Palestinians as lesser people, “human animals”, untermenschen.

        This is the kind of mass murdering Western nations used to do back in the days of Colonialism. It’s only shocking for us nowadays because we’ve evolved as societies and adopted Humanist values (though by their support of Israel you can see that many politicians in several countries and even a large fraction of people have in fact not evolved). Israel does in fact have Western Values, it’s just they’re the White Colonialist Values that many European nations had back in the 19th Century, not 21st Century Western Values.

        • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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          We know they’re stealing Palestinian land. They were stealing Palestinian land when the British Empire installed Israel there. And yes, at that time George VI was glad to suggest it is right and proper to push out the lesser peoples so that the Jewish folk could settle there. And that’s exactly what they’ve been doing since.

          However, since then, the international community has become more aware of the humanity of peoples who are not as wealthy or white as westerners, so much like the Church in the middle ages advocating only for Jus Bellum (so that expansionist kings had to find a way to justify their rightful ownership of the places they conquered) modern nations have to find a way to legitimize the regions they annex, or the peoples they war against.

          So yeah, Israel was glad to have the excuse when Hamas or Hezbollah were there to provide it. And Iran props them up (provides them materiel support) so that they have the opportunity to take shots at Israel, knowing it will drive them to cruelty while the world watches, de-legitimizing the Zionist movement in the eyes of the international community (and the public).

          While Israeli patriots can politely talk about the propriety of (say) price-tag killings or the treatment of Palestinians in Hebron, the State has to be more delicate. All the more so when IDF troopers are expressing glee in the opportunity to massacre Palestinian civilians down to the last child and grandmother.

          But there are no humanitarian interests at the international level. All the states are still propped up by oligarchs wanting to clear land and seize resources for their own use, and at this point, as far as I can tell, we’re all going to be killed by famine and water shortage due to ecology collapse before that changes.

  • @gmtom@lemmy.world
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    But according to western military experts that are promoted by bibi himself, the IDF is the most moral army on earth and does more to mitigate civilian casualties than any army in history???

    • @pastbynow@lemmy.world
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      Modern weapons are so accurate, so when I see this now I’m pretty sure that it was intentional don’t let them deceive y’all by the ‘most moral army in the world’ bull shit, Their goal is to ethnically cleanse the Palestinian ethnicity, they want more and more land. It’s pure genocide yet the west still fund them what a world are we living in! Now you can’t blame a kid for joining Hamas when he grows up in all of this and see all his siblings die or his relatives. Pain will cause pain and violence will cause violence it’ll be an endless loop.

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        Now you can’t blame a kid for joining Hamas when he grows up in all of this and see all his siblings die or his relatives.

        When you bomb the shit out of any area you claim to have terrorists in all you do is create more terrorists. It’s like the oldest concept in history that we absolutely refuse to learn because it’s beneficial not to when you need a terrorist to point at to justify your bullshit…

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          Israel was warned before October 7th and they decided to ignore it, They wanted this to happen in order to destruct and destroy Gaza. Netanyahu is a War-Criminal and I simply can’t wait to see him held accountable for all of that!

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            I sincerely hope this happens, but Israel owns our current administration, and apparently the US has veto power on the UN, which seems like a dumb idea.

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    I was trying to come up with some sick joke about the babies being antisemitic in the eyes of Israel, but I threw up a little bit every time I tried.

    And I’ve got a dark sense of humor, so that’s saying something. >.<

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    That’s 710 babies under 1, it seems. The document wasn’t linked in many of the articles talking about this but one article did mention it was on Gaza’s MoH Telegram account, found it there. It’s a pretty damn long list