• Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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    398 months ago

    I hate the people who can’t stop licking the boots of Stalin’s corpse, but I also hate the idea that America is always good and moral. The CIA is fucking evil, end of story. If they told me the sky was blue I’d double check before I “suddenly committed suicide with 3 shots in the back of the head”.

    Tankies suck shit, but they are (often, not always) right about how America is fundamentally not always correct.

    • @WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 months ago

      Tankies take it so far, they think because America is evil, if you hate America, then you are good. This is how they support people like Hitler and Stalin.

      • алсааас [she/they]M
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        8 months ago

        Stalin I get, but I have yet to see a revisionist (read Dengist or “ML” larper) who defends fascist Germany

      • OBJECTION!
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        78 months ago

        This is how they support people like Hitler

        Citation really fucking needed.

  • Miles O'Brien
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    348 months ago

    He’s right about one thing, the CIA (probably) isn’t “as bad as tankies say”

    It’s (probably) MUCH worse.

  • sepi
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    238 months ago

    bro wtf did the Culinary Institute of America do?

  • @LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    The thing is, the CIA might be as villainous as tankies think it is, but it’s far less competent. They see spooks in every shadow but many, perhaps even most CIA programs have been abject failures. Not everything wrong with the world can be attributed to the CIA, influential as they may be.

    I think it the tankie mythos around them actually makes them more powerful.

    • @Mac@mander.xyz
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      148 months ago

      I’m sure they would love for everyone to think they’re useless failures and look away from the laundry list of fucked up yet known operations that have been successful.

    • алсааас [she/they]M
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      It’s just that the CIA did sooo many fucking atrocities, that quite a few of them (most notably experiments and their silly stuff like trying to murder Castro) turned out to be failures.

      And during the Cold War the CIA was some axis of evil shit. Any time some leftists came to power in the US’s “backyard” (read the Americas and Caribbean. but tbh most of the world), you would either see a fascist coup or some other attempt to delegitimise them…

      Guess who trained the mujahedeen in Afghanistan and the contras in Nicaragua, and gave money, resources and guidance to the fascist military in Chile? (just some historic examples)

      Nowadays you still have the same shit but less. Especially in the US’s “backyard”. Like Bolivia a few yes ago bc they wanted to nationalise their resources (most notably lithium mines)

      But a lot of the time the CIA just makes the preparatory work for US Invasion (Grenada, Iraq and Afghanistan to give some examples)

  • алсааас [she/they]M
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    It’s kind of interesting how under an anti-CIA post, some of the first associations ppl make is “man the USA is bad but have you heard of them tankies? I hate those ppl”

    Like no one even said anything about revisionists or wannabe MLs lol.
    The word tankie doesn’t even mean anything anymore

  • Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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    168 months ago

    Counterpoint, this isn’t even an opinion. This is like magnetic poetry tiles after a dog tried to climb the fridge

  • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    This guy’s a CIA special operative planted to fool Reddit: Kanye-No.jpg

    This guy’s a high school student who just aced his US History AP exam: Kanye-Yes.jpg

    “America is the greatest, bestest, most amazing country in the whole world” is straight out of the course material. You don’t need to be a double-secret super spy to post it.

  • Dippy
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    148 months ago

    As an actual anarcho communist, I know that the only difference between the CIA and your local neighborhood tankie is that the tankie has no access to power, large sums of money, or the ability to achieve violence.