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CoolerOpposide [none/use name] to news@hexbear.netEnglish • 7 months ago

Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett approaching the Confederate States of America stance that West Virginia is an illegitimate state that should not exist

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Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett approaching the Confederate States of America stance that West Virginia is an illegitimate state that should not exist

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CoolerOpposide [none/use name] to news@hexbear.netEnglish • 7 months ago
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  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    77•7 months ago

    I’d posit that the entirety of the US is illegitimate, but it is amusing that people who believe in adhering to every single letter in a document authored 250 years ago are taken remotely seriously

    • urmums401k [she/her, they/them]
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      25•7 months ago

      Yes but if your entire intelligence plusca few high end gpu’s are turned to the task of justifying whatever you currently feel, and that is the entire purpose of everything in the world, then you can totally pick and choose.

      They really are brilliantly stupid, and I mean it when I say that.

    • kittin [he/him]
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      13•7 months ago

      the arguably unconstitutional United States of America

  • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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    62•7 months ago

    How tf is an amendment illegitimate? It’s an amendment. It amends the constitution

    • TheDoctor [they/them]
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      40•7 months ago

      I’m going to introduce an amendment to the constitution that reads, “this amendment is unconstitutional”. Boom. Instant constitutional crisis.

      • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]
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        14•7 months ago

        paradoxical constitutional shenanigans let’s goooo

      • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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        6•7 months ago

        “This amendment makes the constitution unconstitutional”

        Checkmate libs

    • urmums401k [she/her, they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Yes but see its inconvenient for me, so, you know.

      Illegitimate.

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]OP
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      33•7 months ago

      Yeah buddy sure. You vs a Supreme Court justice. Who am I supposed to believe?

      • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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        2•7 months ago

        Who’s got the better Marksmanship rating?

  • YoungSheldonAdelson [they/them]
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    55•7 months ago

    If I were a us supreme court justice in 2024 I would be pretty careful when throwing around words like ‘illegitimate.’

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]OP
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      33•7 months ago

      Just 2024?

  • Parzivus [any]
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    51•7 months ago

    Pretty sure she’s just saying an originalist would have to oppose the existence of West Virginia to be ideologically consistent. Expecting any American politician to have an ideology is lib shit though

    • @_pi@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Yeah Antonin Scalia was a textualist until he wasn’t, until he was again, until he wasn’t.

      • Wheaties [she/her]
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        58•7 months ago

        claims to be an originalist

        does judicial review

        very-intelligent

        • @_pi@lemmy.ml
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          33•7 months ago

          Listen everything Scalia wrote was ideologically consistent because it used the same verbiage as Bush V Gore, “limited to present circumstances”.

          • Wheaties [she/her]
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            37•7 months ago

            ah, a personal favorite,

            this ruling sets no precedent because I decided it doesn’t

            The kind of thing produced by a very real and legitimate court system and definitely not just 9 unaccountable, unelected elders making decisions on a whim.

            • barrbaric [he/him]
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              19•7 months ago

              But remember, we can’t stack the court with 50 zoomer maoists because people would “lose faith” in the “institutions”.

              • Prehensile_cloaca
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                4•7 months ago

                John Roberts’ SCOTUS will be remembered as the implements of America’s downfall.

      • buckykat [none/use name]
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        32•7 months ago

        Every “originalist”/“textualist” is this way. It’s an inherently dishonest position based entirely on finding any excuse to push reaction through the judiciary.

      • edge [he/him]
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        21•7 months ago

        until he wasn’t

        crab-party

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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      16•7 months ago

      How long until she declares the Louisiana Purchase unconstitutional at this rate? sicko-intrigued

    • edge [he/him]
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      I don’t really see why. Multiple states had previously been split from existing states without controversy (including Kentucky also split from Virginia). All that’s required is the approval of the state legislature and Congress. The Virginia state legislature as recognized by Congress and the President voted to allow the counties of West Virginia to leave and form their own state. Congress and the President approved.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    38•7 months ago

    49 state flag vendors salivating

    • regul [any]
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      22•7 months ago

      They haven’t been this horned up since the 248 days before the admission of Hawaii in 1959.

    • OperationOgre [he/him, they/them]
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      I’ll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah

    • mathemachristian [he/him]
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      7•7 months ago

      A square number of stars in a square field is the only thing that makes sense and one of the states has to go as a result. It’s not just in the constitution it’s in the way the flag itself was designed!!

  • Thorngraff_Ironbeard [he/him]
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    33•7 months ago

    The Supreme Clerics of America divine truth from our holy text, it’s says, be more racist.

  • coeliacmccarthy [he/him, they/them]
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    19•7 months ago

    critical support

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]OP
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      25•7 months ago

      President Xi, the people of western Virginia yearn for freedom

      • coeliacmccarthy [he/him, they/them]
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        15•7 months ago

        West Virginiastan Independence Movement

  • Zoift [he/him]
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    17•7 months ago

    This is the medium domino in the chain that leads to the full cardinality of Virginia.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      14•7 months ago

      “western virginia” breaks the meter of Country Roads sadness

      • buckykat [none/use name]
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        7•7 months ago

        “West Makaha” doesn’t and that version’s better anyway israel-cool

      • quarrk [he/him]
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        2•7 months ago

        I’m pretty sure that song already refers to western Virginia, not West Virginia

  • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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    12•7 months ago

    Fourteenth Amendment:

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

    …I feel like the lede’s being buried here; are these crackers really talking about tryna denaturalize people born here??? Oh my god please denaturalize me so I don’t have to pay the exit taxes.

    • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Here’s a more complete screenshot of the original showing the footnotes on the page:

      The article being referenced in note 4 is https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/nulr/vol107/iss4/3/. The argument being made is:

      That said, given the news about deportation going around, a judge in SCOTUS that had previously questioned the legitimacy of the 14th Amendment could be a problem…

      • @Razzazzika@lemm.ee
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        6•7 months ago

        What i don’t get about this whole though… like if someone is born here, and their parents wer both born here. How do you revoke their citizenship and deport them. Where to? Nearest available non American born ancestors? My great grandmother is German. Would they deport me to Germany? How would any other country react to people being deported there with no ties to that country?

        What i do get is they’re going to have to set up some sort of internment camp to put all of these reporters while they sort out those details…

        • @porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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          3•7 months ago

          How would any other country react to people being deported there with no ties to that country?

          the same thing the empire does to other refugees it creates: criminalize → incarcerate → kill

          • @Razzazzika@lemm.ee
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            2•7 months ago

            Yeah figured that would be the next step

  • carpoftruth [any, any]M
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    6•7 months ago

    Please provide a link to the source of this

    • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]
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      6•7 months ago

      I found this: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a794a2a0abd04c9c6e10f85/t/5f7390f725e76e4bfcb6dd35/1601409272651/Amy+Coney+Barrett+Congressional+Originalism.pdf

      Which was linked from here: https://www.valleydude70.com/blog-1/2020/9/29/amy-comey-barrett-and-the-fourteenth-amendment

      (I am not the OP)

      • carpoftruth [any, any]M
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        3•7 months ago

        Thank you!

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]OP
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      5•7 months ago

      https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1619&context=jcl

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