if i lived life thinking there was something wrong with me just because i don’t like something it seems like everyone else likes, then that would be one miserable existence–no thanks. anyway, for me it was the big lebowski–probably the most boring pointless movie i ever sat through
Well that just like, your opinion man…
Shut the fuck up Donny
The one saving grace of lebowski is that when you bring up not liking it the people who do like it are too busy quoting it to argue with you.
Everything’s a fucking travesty with you, man! And what was all that shit about Vietnam? What the fuck has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fuck are you talking about!?
Agreed on both philosophical ground and impression of Lebowski!
Thank you. Plus his “best friend” (John Goodman) was a complete dick that did nothing of benefit for him the entire movie.
Haven’t watched it in years though, so I was planning to re-watch and see if my opinion changes.
Avatar. Technically the 3D was fun, but I can’t understand any of the rabid fandom.
i don’t think I’ve ever seen a rabbid Fandom around it.
it was just an easy approachable pretty movie for the masses. with a massive budget and a very well known director it brought people in to see the best visuals hollywood sfx had at the time. that’s basically how it was marketed, as a tech demo.
I’ve never once seen anyone fanboy about it. it sold well, but didn’t excite many.
on three other hand, avatar the last air bender has a massive and rabid fandom.
don’t think I’ve ever seen a rabbid Fandom around it.
were you around when the movie was just released?
There was an insane weird fandom around it. From people just loving it to full on navi otherkin-ing. People getting depressed and suicidal to not live in that world. And I’m not talking about a handfull of people but quite a large group.
i was around then, I’ve just never met anyone who cared about that movie.
if there were clips going around of people dressing up like that I’d chalk that up to being a marketing campaign.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rabbid Fandom around it.
Avatar is the second-highest-grossing movie of all time, folk can’t seem to get enough of the science fiction epic and are going back for repeat viewings.
it sold well, but didn’t excite many.
Which is why I list it here.
It’s the second highest grossing movie of all time, yet no one who has watched it can quote a single line from it, or recall the name of any character.
Avatar: The Way of Water is 3rd highest grossing (Ignoring inflation) so it’s not just the 3D part.
And people cosplay it frequently.
I really don’t get it.
Huh, I certainly can’t. The only name that I can recall is “unobtanium” because it’s so stupid. “Big dumb movie that has good visuals” has always been my estimation of it.
It was a pretty awesome experience to see in theaters at the time. The story was ass even then but the affects were amazing enough to carry it. My GF at the time and I went back twice to see it. Watching it on a regular screen these days it’s completely forgettable.
It’s very true that “it was just Dances With Wolves in space,” but Dances With Wolves is a good story. A good story + decent directing + pretty visuals = a movie that’s at least decent, if not mind-blowing or whatever.
Avatar 2, on the other hand, definitely suffered story-wise.
“Dances With Smurfs,” as South Park put it.
Hard agree. Just generic sci-fi with obvious themes and plot.
Nobody actually liked that (Either the Kevin Costner one or the blue remake).
I thought Black Panther was mid at best but it made me sound like a racist whenever I mentioned that.
Ironically, this movie is pretty racist. The opening scene is a cliche basketball scene, and Wakanda, despite being a futuristic society, still uses tribal law and decides its leaders by fighting half naked to the death.
I mean I’m confident they were to fight have naked due to eye candy. That 100% worked on me despite the bland writing.
Aquaman too.
Dudes are out there celebrating some aggressively average movies.
Aquaman
I agree with you in general, but I don’t think you can pin this one on the dudes… or at least not the ones below 3 on the Kinsey scale 😆
Any of the mission impossible/fast and furious films. That shit is boring.
Oppenheimer
And even to an extent interstellar
I just find recent Nolan massively overrated
Which is ironic because The Prestige, Memento and even Dunkirk are great
I both loved and hated Interstellar. Really loved the storytelling and visuals, really hated how sci-fi/magical it got towards the end
I remember thinking at the end “wait, what was the entire point of this?”
Agree. A non-library cut is what is needed.
It feels like it should’ve been 2 films. The last quarter or so of the film just felt a bit rushed and overly-convenient. I absolutely loved the world building and general lore to the movie though
The more I thought about Oppenheimer the less I understood why people liked it so I 100% relate
The thing that gets me is that it was simultaneously way too long while also finding a way to be too short. Obviously years of history have to be compressed to fit into three hours of cinema, but they distilled what was originally months worth of conversation down to one or two lines of dialog in some cases. It’s more off-putting to me than a two-hour film would have been if they had just skipped some of the details.
I wish they had just taken some creative license and done what the writers of the miniseries Chernobyl did with the fictional Ulana character:
I liked Oppenheimer because I found the man compelling, plus the cinematography and pace really complimented the drama of his life in a way that kept me engaged. I think one’s enjoyment of the movie really comes down to if they find the decisions he made interesting or dramatic enough to be worth watching for 3 hours. If you find that boring then there’s nothing really there to enjoy.
I think it was the most useless movie to watch/record in IMAX. The trinity test was visually extremely disappointing (Nolan’s fault for not wanting to use CGI and rely on practical effects to mimick a nuclear explosion was just stupid…) and also Oppie as a character in the movie is extremely bland and shallow
And finally once again the only relevant female character is laughably bad.
IMO from barbenheimmer, Barbie was the best movie or at least the one I’d more easily rewatch
Beyond the Barbenheimer memes, everyone pretty much forgot that movie existed after a few weeks.
Oppenheimer
YES. For me it was especially disappointing because I’m exactly the target market for this kind of film on every level.
It’s Top Gun for me. It’s just Tom Cruise being Tom Cruise in a flight jacket.
Strangely enough there aren’t that many movies that feature jets dogfighting though. That kind of makes it worth watching because I love Ace Combat and that’s the closest thing I’ll probably ever have to a feature film.
In Ace combat 6 the player also flies down a narrow corridor and destroys the enemy doomsday weapon.
Everything Everywhere All At Once. I found it utterly boring, yet everyone seemd to love it, especially my fellow ADHD crowd. I never even bothered finishing the film which is bloody rare for me.
Yet I like mind-bending films like Primer, and chaotic films like Crank, and heck, I even like Battleship as a guilty pleasure that I can turn my brain off to… But this film? Bleh.
I felt mostly the same way watching it, but I also think the ending of the movie is important to understand the soul of it. I wasn’t crazy about the humor or the whole look-how-random-LOL vibe it had, but I do think there was something more beneath that. The performances were also very good.
I didn’t get the hype when I watched it the first time shortly after it was released. But when I rewatched it recently it hit differently. There was less need to try to keep up with all the random things that are happening so fast and instead I focused on the deeper message about the meaning of and the appreciation for our lives with all the good and bad going on.
This is me with any movie starring Will Farrell, but especially Talladega Nights. He can be good in supporting roles (Zoolander springs to mind), but all the movies he leads just don’t land with me.
Out of all the Will Farrell movies you could have picked you went and used the best one as your example?
I always give Stranger Than Fiction as an example to see Will Ferrall do a non-usual comedy movie, I enjoyed it anyways. Some people can’t stand his usual schitck which I can understand. Though I do enjoy the studiest of comedy and he can nail that genre, but I do think it takes talent/skill to pull it off as well as he does.
This is my exact stance on not only Ferrell but Jim Carrey, their “funny guy” schtick just makes me cringe but in a “serious” role they’re GREAT.
Carry definitely has good options too, The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, and I don’t think he went all funny guy in The Number 23, I recall I enjoyed it but very litte else about it.
Edit: Oh of course Truman Show but that goes without saying.
In that vein, Uncut Gems with Adam Sandler. Great performance, but if you have anxiety issues you might want to skip it, it’s a bit of a rough watch. But you should definitely watch his acceptance speech for a Film Independent Spirit award.
It’s the best example of why I don’t like him. It’s a stupid movie about stupid people doing stupid things in a stupidly written way. It’s one of 2 movies I’ve ever walked out on.
I have no response or defence for that. You’re right. All I can say is, although I’m more of a drama guy, that movie had me in stitches beginning to end.
The Deadpool Movies, just don’t get them for some reason.
Feel like there’s no real plot, nothing really matters, the humor is family guy level cameos and 4th wall breaks that are only funny when used sparingly.
It’s like eating an Oreo but we took out the cookie so now you’re just OD’ing on stuffing and not in a good way.
The “humor” is just Ryan being Ryan. He is a mean guy. It’s funny on screen but IRL he is just that rude and gross to everyone without discrimination. I had to work with him twice and I dislike him. His wife is the same way. They are just objectively cruel for no reason. Which is funny when you’re acting on screen only.
Deadpool the character is an asshole, so it makes sense he’d be good at playing him.
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I had heard about Gone with The Wind all my life and I knew it was incredibly racist. It finally came on basic cable and I decided to see what all the fuss was about.
I found myself watching and liking a movie I knew was complete and utter bullshit.
Well, as a movie, it’s a good movie. Great directing, incredible acting (for the era), with a dynamic and well paced story. It holds up in technical terms despite the shifts in style and performance that have happened over the years.
If you hum really hard during the racist parts, you could still call it one of the greats. And it isn’t like it’s “birth of a nation” bad in that regard. There’s way worse movies out there from the era, and the era before that was horrible on average.
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Watch an Peter O’Toole movie, ‘The Stunt Man.’ Great movie; funny, scary, exciting, romantic, plus a bunch of great plot twists.
There’s a scene where a kinda schubby screen writer talks about how he paid $1,000.00 to fly to Guatemala to have sex with a 14 year old virgin.
That line was considered only mildly off-color when the movie came out.
Holy crap. That would not go over well any more
Even wilder. Look at the Sean Connery James Bond movies. The smoking and drinking are the least offensive things. Back in the day, Bond was considered suitable to be sold as a kids’ toy.
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/price-result/lot-of-james-bond-collectibles/
Also, Sean Connery was open about about beating women. He saw nothing wrong with it if he felt it was “corrective” of behavior, like a dog.
So part of the reason for the toys is actually a bit of interesting cultural shifting. Basically back then there wasn’t really a separation between adult and kids media unless it was explicitly pornography, so a lot of things we see now as for kids or for adults still had broad appeal in mind.
This shifted through the 60s, 70s, and then solidified some time in the 80s. It’s why Star wars a New Hope has dismemberment while being rated PG, same thing with Indiana Jones.
You can also see this when watching films from the 50s and 60s as they were really designed to cover a variety of genres at once. Has a little romance sub-plot for mom, action sequences for little Tommy and some cool cars/gadgets for dad. Y’know because everything had to be stereotyped to hell and back. But it is jarring seeing how much of variety films old movies really were
While the reasoning for why that is the case is kinda meh, I wish that was done more often nowadays. Sadly it seems like the media that inherited that tendency was video games, which while I love my vidya it does make it harder to backwards push it into film.
As a side note. The MPAA ratings system came out in 1968. Any movie made before that was automatically “G” rated if it had been shown in theaters. So if you showed “Goldfinger” in a theater it would be “G.” But movies get rated differently if it’s VHS/DVD; so when the movie went on sale it was PG, then PG-13.
That’s art for ya.
https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-iron-dream-norman-spinrad/7751155?ean=9781490439457&next=t
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The book was written by a Jewish guy named Norman Spinrad. In the foreword we learn that in 1922 Adolph Hitler went to America and became a science fiction illustrator and, after his English improved, a writer. This is his final and most popular novel, a tale of a young man who was exiled from his homeland and finally returns to find it under the control of a mysterious cabal of mind readers…
counterpoint: there are worse things than this
Top Gun 2 sucked ass.
To be honest, so did Top Gun 1…
It was just high budget military propaganda.
Yvan eth nioj!
You shush your filthy mouth! Never disrespect the memory of Goose!
I’ma not disrespect the memory of Val Kilmer but that movie was the gayest thing I’ve ever seen and I fuck men
You ain’t wrong lol.
I know for a fact that volleyball scene was misunderstood by so many teenage men discovering that they’re gay lmao
Top Gun was what I came here to say
I was a huge Star Wars fan before Disney took over, and haven’t liked anything they’ve done with it. Most people agree, with 2 exceptions: Andor, which I admittedly haven’t watched yet, and…Rogue One
I don’t think Rogue One is much better than the other Disney Star Wars drivel, but I’m apparently the only person in the universe who thinks that. I’ve watched it three times and just don’t get why people think it’s good.
I enjoyed Andor but I think that has more to do with it seemed to focus far more on telling a good story than relying heavily on all of the tropes that make Star Wars content Star Wars
In descending order: Andor, Empire Strikes Back, A New Hope, Rogue One. Everything below that isn’t worth watching. (OK I didn’t see any of the animated stuff yet, and I heard some of that was good, but I also heard a lot about baby yoda, so who knows?)
I want to read your next unpopular opinion on an even more controversial topic, especially if it involves sincerely held beliefs.
for animated stuff skip the dave filoni garbage and go straight to Visions and the Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars.
So I actually do like a lot of the Disney stuff (I get enough hate please noooooo) but Rogue One I cannot stand and don’t understand why it exists. The whole movie was justified off of a single line from A New Hope and the ending of Rogue One changes the opening of A New Hope in a bizarre way. Went from him chasing her down to her literally being like 15 feet from him as he watches her leave and follows her easily. Not necessarily bad because Leia bold faced lying to Vader and giving no fucks is kind of hysterical knowing he just watched her 10 seconds ago but odd.
Andor… I watched the first episode and was interested to an extent but I think I’d have to push myself through a few episodes to really get into it. I’ve been in stress mode the past few months so just rewatching what I like over and over again. I’ve seen Penn and Teller so many fucking times in the past 3 weeks…
Interesting that we both dislike Rogue One, but I also don’t like anything else recent. That being said, I’m always down for some Penn and Teller, those guys are great
The Last Jedi is probably my favorite Star Wars movie. What I was surprised to find out recently was that on Rotten Tomatoes, the critic review of TLJ is high but audience is low. Bizarrely, it’s the dead opposite with Rise of Skywalker. That confuses me considering I’ve never heard anyone other than myself say a single good thing about it.
And hell yes Penn and Teller. Although Teller does look like Yoda lately…
it’s so weird to me that the hate for TLJ (easily the best of the sequels, and imo better than any of the prequels) is so strong but the reaction to and criticism for RoS (the worst SW movie to date by a WIDE margin) are and remain extremely tepid.
Also they did my girl Rose Tycho dirty af and I’m still salty to this day.
Rouge One was okay, in my view. It wasn’t spectacular, it wasn’t terrible, it was okay.
Andor tells the story of how a full scale rebellion was born from a guy who pretty much wanted nothing to do with it and the choices the empire made for their agenda. Rogue one is the peak of that story and shows you just what it takes to defy a galaxy wide space government bent on total control.
I liked it because i grew up on the original trilogy and it was nice to see a fleshed out depiction with characters who barely had screen time or none at all in the OT but had so much to do with the events leading up to it. It feels like history and they did it very well imo
I didn’t used to think this but now have come around to believing that it’s about how old you are because I dislike both the prequel and sequel trilogies but most people younger than me generally feel as good about the prequels as I do the original. Which seems like an obvious difference to me but I guess it’s that bias.
I’m fine with the prequels, and I’m old enough to have seen a New Hope before it was called a New Hope. In the theaters even, though I didn’t actually see it there. I don’t think the prequels are as good as the originals overall, but I enjoy watching them every few years.
But you’re right, the prequels are almost always split on generational lines. Most of us old farts don’t like them.
Don’t look up was that movie for me. Almost everyone praised it to high heavens, with me smirking at maybe 2 lines / scenes throughout that entire slog.
Each to his own, I guess…
Nah, me too. Felt like the whole movie it was looking over at the audience like “Ehhh, Ehhh? You get it?”
Yeah, it was just way too much “in your face”. Ppl said it was a great, thought-provoking parody, all I saw was a tryhard attempt at forcing through a rather bad attempt at that
I enjoyed Don’t Look Up for the comedic pacing mostly. Where every time you seem to get a feel for the mood and direction it has something subversive to throw you off. Definitely could’ve been less on the nose with the allegory but some people just need some things shouted into their face for a chance at getting it
I get it, I liked it but it was kind of up it’s own ass, but that recurring gag about the general asking for money for free snacks was great. There was one scene toward the end in particular that was all serious then Jennifer Lawrence brought it up that killed me.
Anything from Quentin Tarantino, his writing style just bugs the fuck out of me, he is so far up his own ass and it shows with every stupid pretentious monologue.
So much sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Dude, I don’t want to downvote an opinion, but this one is fucking hard.
I apologize for nothing.
Quentin Tarantino is just a teenage edgelord with a foot fetish.
No mention of his foot fetish?
I’ll always like pulp fiction, because back then it kind of redefined for me what a movie is. And i was then excited to watch more of his stuff and it just seemed to get worse and worse. I was shocked when i watched death proof, because it was just garbage.
I hate to be that guy, but wasn’t Death Proof kind of intentionally fucking stupid? Same as Planet Terror which it was bundled with. I always assumed that was the point.
