• DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]
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    4 days ago

    What did western capitalists expect?

    porky-happy: “Well, here you go! All the supply chains! On a silver platter!”

    some-controversy: “Thank you!”

    porky-scared-flipped: “Wait, how did you get so powerful!?!?”

    EDIT: removed possible sinophobia.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      164 days ago

      I think China playing the Uno reverso card on capitalists is probably my favorite thing about China.

      “Hehehehehe I’ll build my factories there and bring them under my heels!”

      “Nice, free infrastructure!. We can just take it and there’s not a goddamn thing you can do about it.”

    • reaper_cushions [he/him, comrade/them]
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      134 days ago

      They expected a rapid increase in short term profits. And to their credit, they were correct to expect them. They just didn’t think that China would actually do what it stated it would do in no uncertain terms.

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]
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        134 days ago

        Wait, that’s an actual fash thing? I thought long-term thinking was just what happens when you aren’t blinded by capitalism’s instant gratification fetish.

        • D61 [any]
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          94 days ago

          Pretty sure it isn’t a fashy dog whistle but fascists use the simple “we plan for more than the next fiscal quarter” as something only “the Orientals” janet-wink do to feed into the “our enemy are both subhuman incompetents and a world dominating unified force that is an existential threat.”

          • MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him]
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            124 days ago

            This is interesting, because it’s a fascist dog whistle that is just absolutely true, not even a “we flip anything to be bad”, but one that is just “here’s an accurate assessment of China’s political and economic long term goals, but it’s bad because they’re scary.” Way easier to co-opt that one than the ones from the Parenti quote. I just tell libs “but it’s a good thing, right? We should be jealous that their socio-economic system can plan ahead and try to do that ourselves too?”

            • D61 [any]
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              because it’s a fascist dog whistle that is just absolutely true

              I’m thinking that’s not what a dog whistle means.

              • MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him]
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                34 days ago

                I think not? There are lots of dog-whistles that are just racist with no positive, I think. Unless I don’t understand the term. I’ve heard lots of calls to think about racist ideas that are not true at all

                • D61 [any]
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                  22 days ago

                  Now, I reserve the right to be wrong…

                  But I thought the whole point of a dog whistle is to do two things:

                  1. Say a thing out loud that can be interpreted in so many different ways, people who wouldn’t be 100% on board with the sentiment behind the dog whistle will agree with it and repeat it.

                  2. Allow the group who might not be agreed with if they just said they really meant, to speak out publicly about a subject or opinion and not immediately be rejected by the majority of a group.

                  A dog whistle doesn’t have to be a false statement or true statement but it seems like they tend toward being vague. Its all innuendo. When a phrase is said, there is a wink and a nod at the end instead of a period.

                  Like, “state’s rights”, “school choice”, or “urban youth”. Those three phrases seem pretty straight forward if you aren’t looking at them through any particular lense.

                  A normie gets to think about “state’s rights” and it sounds pretty good right? “Hey, we can made decisions on what we do around here. We are capable of making decisions for ourselves.” But the context that “state’s rights” is often used in is not the general idea of local self determination but questions like “should human beings be property?”, “should 100% of medical procedures, 100% of the time be forbidden because it could terminate a pregnancy?”, “should the state allow oil pipelines to run close enough to municiple water supplies to poison all the poor people.”

                • @Grapho@lemmy.ml
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                  44 days ago

                  A dogwhistle is just any phrase to signal that you’re a fascist/racist/whatever but seems innocuous enough that pushback can be pointed to as an overreaction