• @stoy@lemmy.zip
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    1467 days ago

    If it is antisemitic to simply describe what the soldiers are doing, then the actions themselves are antisemitic.

    • Possibly linux
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      I wouldn’t call it antisemitic

      However, it is deeply disturbing and unethical and Israel is desperately covering up by any means necessary

      • Cethin
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        26 days ago

        Well, maybe in the original meaning of the word. Most Palestinians do speak a Semitic language. The word usually now mean anti-jewish though.

        • Possibly linux
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          These days it seems to mean anti what ever views Israel wants you to have

          It has been so watered down it isn’t even funny

      • Possibly linux
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        -26 days ago

        Hamas is antisemitic and has publicly bragged about it

        Evil brings evil

          • @rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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            15 days ago

            Witb justification or not israel will always oppress palestinians because it believe all rhe land is jewish.

            Israel didn’t fund hamas, qatar did. Unlike hamas, israel collect palestinian taxes in west bank and directly fund them with part of it

              • @rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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                15 days ago

                Again. Nothing enter palestine without israel approval. The palestinian autority get directly paid by israel. The palestinian autority is collaborating with israel and protect israel security while israel is funding illegal settlers , protect them when they attack, demolish palestinians homes. Torture, rape and kill palestinians.

                Answer this question. If all armed group get destroyed do you think israel will stop occupation?

        • Dammam No. 7
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          This is false. Hamas since its founding has repeatedly stated they only fight against Israel because of resistance to settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing and not because of their religion.

          You can hear the founder of Hamas say so here: https://youtu.be/FCxRZrBYLVg

  • @MTK@lemmy.world
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    1077 days ago

    “I am jewish and did terrible things”

    “Fuckin jew hater! He wants to kill all jews!”

    That makes sense right?

  • @D_C@lemm.ee
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    557 days ago

    Wow, the “that’s antisemitic” saying really is an all encompassing get out of jail free card.

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      I feel so bad for any Jewish people who don’t support this shit. There’s gonna be multiple generations of actual antisemitism spawned by Israel’s actions and the fact that the American deep state is obsessed with supporting them.

      • ddh
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        And will Likud have cried wolf enough that people start to disregard antisemitism entirely?

  • @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    487 days ago

    Hey, Israel is so super ethical. They one try on women’s lingerie because it keeps them from getting shot. They only starve children because those children will become terrorist. They only shoot people seeking aid or food because they’re seeking aid or food. What would you do if someone wanted water? Not shoot them? Are you insane?!

    This comment is sarcasm. Fuck Israel and the IDF.

  • Cosmoooooooo
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    447 days ago

    It’s just a common religious tactic. When they do bad things, they get angry at anyone who tried to call them out on it. Even if it’s their own people, and they aren’t doing it on purpose. Is the hate being supported by their religion? Yes? Then it’s religious hate, and needs to be stopped.

    Does it matter if it’s one religion? Nope, they all do this shit. Radical christians, radical hindu, radical buddhists, etc… Call them out on their bullshit and hate, and you’re the bigot. Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.

    • @huppakee@feddit.nl
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      87 days ago

      Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.

      It’s not really the religion though, basically all religions come with a set of believes in what is wrong and right and the hate-spewing war criminals will say it has to do with their religion, but they do not follow the believes set out by their religion. They are only using religion as a tool to gain power over the people that do follow the believes of that religion.

      • @ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        26 days ago

        You’re right, of course. The real problem, as you pointed out, is religious states.

        See also: the way the US has become increasingly brazen about its atrocities as the Evangelicals have sunk their tentacles deeper and deeper into our political system.

      • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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        16 days ago

        On the other hand, there have been Jewish states before modern Israel, and it always ended in tears. Maybe believing that you’re God’s chosen people inevitably causes you to act with an arrogance and belief in your own invincibilty that eventually causes your country to be destroyed. If you believe God literally wants you to have a piece of dirt, why practice good diplomacy and have good relations with your neighbors? Your only concern is keeping God happy. In the Old Testament, the Israelites suffered invasion only when they somehow let God down. With that as your cultural foundation, what does that do to your nation’s foreign policy?

        Part of me really is starting to wonder if giving folks who think they’re God’s special chosen people was a terrible mistake.

        • layzerjeyt
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          26 days ago

          what theocracies of any religion haven’t “ended in tears”?

          Part of me really is starting to wonder if giving folks who think they’re God’s special chosen people was a terrible mistake.

          I think you missed a word or two there.

          I’d suggest the mistake was giving people a country which was already occupied by other people. Whatever myth gets used to justify it, be it god’s chosen people or manifest destiny.

    • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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      47 days ago

      I’m not an expert in their religion but I doubt their religion says that committing genocide and all kinds of war crime atrocities is a good thing.

      • @NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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        37 days ago

        They’re Zionists, this is actually a core part of the end goals outlined in every Abrahamic religion, they are literally hoping to destroy all the non children of god and take over the world. We’re all just Canaanites to them if we’re not on their team.

      • layzerjeyt
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        16 days ago

        I believe that in Judaism there is some traditions of interpretation which can justify the current situation. But it isn’t a religion based on obedience as much as discussion so it isn’t a matter of what is “said” as much as what is understood.

        However much more relevant is the powerful and mainstream protestant Christian prophesies where the Rapture can be hastened by people taking certain steps, including having a jewish state in israel. (The jews, like most other people, will ultimately get horrifically exterminated during the Rapture, which is considered desirable to adherents.) Impatience for this Rapture is one of the reasons people and governments support Israel. American Christian groups provide way more funding and material support for Israel than jewish groups do.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮
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      Radical Buddhists

      Now, I am not going to disagree here because I don’t know a lot about it, but the only radical Buddhist I ever heard about was a dude who set himself on fire to protest the Vietnamese government oppressing Buddhists in the 60s and monks in China fighting against tyranical rulers that would have exterminated them. Have any radical Buddhists ever hurt others for not believing in their system of faith?

    • @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      This kind of shit is a carbon copy of how the Nazis used claims of people being “against the Aryan race” to deflect criticism of the actions of the Nazis.

      I think this is religion being weaponized to support the extreme depravity of an ethno-Fascist ideology, rather than an inherent drive in that religion.

      In other words, the problem with Religions is not them having an inherent tendency for this kind of thing, is that they are extremely easy to capture and use to support even the most depraved behaviours, being capable of excusing actions well beyond what most other prepackaged belief systems are able to successfully excuse.

      In summary, I don’t think Religion is a driver of this kind of shit, I think it’s an enabler.

  • @iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    427 days ago

    Well I would argue Netanyahu is the head anti-semitist since by over using this word he has destroyed any weight that it carries. It now has effectively become a joke.

    • @urandom@lemmy.world
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      167 days ago

      I think he’s antisemitic because he’s carrying atrocities against Semitic people. Arabs are Semitic people.

      • @WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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        36 days ago

        The real irony of all this is that the people being genocides right now in Gaza have a much closer genetic relationship to the actual human beings who wrote the Torah than those who are genociding them. We’re watching the actual descendents of the ancient Israelites being exterminated right now.

  • @EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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    376 days ago

    Netanyahu says it’s antisemitic

    Learn a new trick, fuckface. This one doesn’t work anymore. People are going to start responding to accusations like this with “so what?” because the word has been watered down to such a ridiculous degree that it is no longer meaningful.

    And that’s really dangerous because it provides cover for actual antisemitism against Jewish people.

  • @scott@lemmy.org
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    357 days ago

    It’s so sinister. Latching on to the real history of blood libel to not only reinforce the idea that liberal media lies as a matter of routine, but to simultaneously use that reinforcement to build up the idea that liberals are either secretly antisemetic or too led around by the nose by propaganda to realize their antisemitism.

    Of course it’s deeply antisemitic for netanyahu to do this. It’s also going to be extremely effective.

    • layzerjeyt
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      26 days ago

      I think it actually trivializes the allegations made by the IDF solidiers because the substance of historical “blood libel” myths seem almost gentle by comparison of what is actually going on. Baking bread with the blood of the occasional child would hardly even be noticed among the on going horrific carnage.

    • @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      26 days ago

      All those liberals going along with the idea that it’s possible to discriminate in a positive way only have themselves to blame when it turned out that their “positive” support of those they perceive as representatives of an ethnicity whom they (the liberals) view as “victims” as whole (i.e. all individuals of that ethnicity, rather than just the actual victims) was just racist prejudice and discrimination and stupidly easy to abuse to support ethnic cleansing (as long as those doing the murdering are from a “victim” race).

      Support for any kind of ethnic-wide assumptions about people and different standards of judgement and actions towards them based on their ethnicity, is the very same kind of view of one’s fellow human beings as the Nazis had, just with different “good” races and “bad” races.

      People should be judged on and treated based on what they support and what they do, not the ethnicity they were born into.

    • Cosmoooooooo
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      The religions throw around antisemitism like it’s a catch phrase. Don’t forget ‘islamophobia’.

      It’s all just stealth blasphemy laws. “Don’t talk bad about our hate religion, or you’re a bad person”. That’s what blasphemy laws are, and they’re illegal for good reasons.

      Why the fuck you’re doing a pointing game with the word ‘antisemetic’ is beyond me. Sounds like the typical christian “they’re not real christians, only I am!!!”

      • @Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        islamaphobia dint really stick with people, anti-semitic has been around and established for decades of documented atrocities. islamaphobia is a very new concept has to do with extremely prejuidicial white people.

  • Victor
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    327 days ago

    Why are none of these evil dictators just dying of a heart attack already?!? Let’s gooo!