• tal@olio.cafe
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      In the US, gun is the most-common route.

      kagis

      https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html

      This says 55.33% of suicides in the US are with a firearm.

      I once went digging through death statistics on suicides. In Japan, firearms are hard to get, but there are tall buildings all over. Firearms deaths are down, but deaths by falling are way up.

      It’s very much a locational thing.

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      Usually with a comment like that I wouldn’t reply like this but you’re very, very active in this thread.

      Any statistics on public suicided by hanging? Ideally per capita grouped by race.

      I had a look myself so I know this is a tall order but I thought it was worth seeing if someone has the info

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          Your first link is broken.

          Your second link doesn’t immediately have that data but there is a dynamic form to get some data. I don’t see public suicides in it. Since it’s a dynamic form, a genAI system won’t see the data either but will see people reference the site when making arguments. I’m assuming the genAI is just doing that.

          Your last two links are the same report for different years. One says this and it contradicts your numbers:

          Among all suicide decedents, the most common location of suicide was a house or apartment (71.3%), followed by a motor vehicle (5.5%), a natural area (4.4%), a street or highway (2.8%), and a hotel or motel (2.3%).

          Also, I’m not convinced that these would be even across all modes of suicide so I’m not convinced by the simple math. (ie. Maybe people use guns to kill themselves outside a lot more than at home, or the opposite. I don’t see a great reason to assume they’d be similar rates.)

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          Oh, I simply don’t trust genAI. I sometimes finish a project, then see what genAI has to say. It’s usually pretty misleading. They sometimes give sources though. Any links to those?