There are people who idolise the gang (and their views/sayings) from It’s Always Sunny just because the show is good and they are the main characters. Even if the show does constantly a lot to point out they are dogshit people.
And neither the cast nor the show runners share the views of the gang/characters. But I assume that is simply clear enough.
No, this is about South Park first and foremost, and what the show satirizes goes far beyond what the main characters do.
You seriously read as if you’re commenting on something else, and the downvoting of my main point leaves me to believe even Lemmy users are too fucking stupid to understand how bad satire is, in fact, bad.
(btw, Always Sunny usually does far better satire than South Park)
The last time I expressed these opinions on South Park, I had a healthy upvote ratio, so either something fucky is happening here, or people in general really are just fucking brainless about what it takes to make good satire…
I don’t hate the show. I just hate that they miss the problem with so many things when they’re not as blatantly obvious as fucking fascists taking over the whitehouse.
South Park isn’t a direct satire, never/rarely was, it takes small bits & pieces from reality and make another reality/universe. The allegories don’t stack up, never really have (iirc, I might have forgotten stuff over the years). They only have short satiric comments, the satire ends basically before that is woven into a story along with other made-up bits. So rectoplasm on the nose is satire, but everything beyond that is just random story.
They make short jokes on reality as a way to get ideas flowing for the story.
Why should they change now?
The main difference is that (very) lately the arches again centre around random bits from USA politics. It’s what dominates the news/society. And to that they say in the show how everything changed & now they (the kids) now have to pay attention or whatever - something I hear from the few (up to recently apolitical) people I know living over there.
I just hate that they miss the problem with so many things
Do you have any example them telling a good moral on current events? They prob did it at least a few times, but usually not - they just make stuff up for the lolz, not to serve reshape and educate society. A society/individuals expecting that from South Park would be a silly one.
Not straight up juvenile parody.
Trey Parker is too immature himself to make poignant satire
I think we basically agree, I just don’t member when things were that much different & I’m not sure why would I expect more from South Park.
Perhaps you’ve just outgrown SP & it doesn’t suit you anymore, it is a long running show after all.
There are people who idolise the gang (and their views/sayings) from It’s Always Sunny just because the show is good and they are the main characters. Even if the show does constantly a lot to point out they are dogshit people.
And neither the cast nor the show runners share the views of the gang/characters. But I assume that is simply clear enough.
No, this is about South Park first and foremost, and what the show satirizes goes far beyond what the main characters do.
You seriously read as if you’re commenting on something else, and the downvoting of my main point leaves me to believe even Lemmy users are too fucking stupid to understand how bad satire is, in fact, bad.
(btw, Always Sunny usually does far better satire than South Park)
The last time I expressed these opinions on South Park, I had a healthy upvote ratio, so either something fucky is happening here, or people in general really are just fucking brainless about what it takes to make good satire…
I don’t hate the show. I just hate that they miss the problem with so many things when they’re not as blatantly obvious as fucking fascists taking over the whitehouse.
They’ve apologized for haven’t dogshit political takes. I don’t excuse them but if you’re looking at SP for ANY insight you need to look at yourself.
Why do they keep trying to make real satire when they’re shit at it? An apology only means something if behavior changes.
South Park isn’t a direct satire, never/rarely was, it takes small bits & pieces from reality and make another reality/universe. The allegories don’t stack up, never really have (iirc, I might have forgotten stuff over the years). They only have short satiric comments, the satire ends basically before that is woven into a story along with other made-up bits. So rectoplasm on the nose is satire, but everything beyond that is just random story.
They make short jokes on reality as a way to get ideas flowing for the story.
Why should they change now?
The main difference is that (very) lately the arches again centre around random bits from USA politics. It’s what dominates the news/society. And to that they say in the show how everything changed & now they (the kids) now have to pay attention or whatever - something I hear from the few (up to recently apolitical) people I know living over there.
Do you have any example them telling a good moral on current events? They prob did it at least a few times, but usually not - they just make stuff up for the lolz, not to serve reshape and educate society. A society/individuals expecting that from South Park would be a silly one.
I think we basically agree, I just don’t member when things were that much different & I’m not sure why would I expect more from South Park.
Perhaps you’ve just outgrown SP & it doesn’t suit you anymore, it is a long running show after all.