• ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    This doesn’t jive with my life experience at all. If my family could have “programmed” me, I would have turned out very differently. Also all my siblings are wildly different people.

    The development of living beings is a messy process and there are significant uncontrollable elements.

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      11 minutes ago

      Sure but neglected child is always going to turn out worse than one that was properly loved and taken care of. You can’t just go oh well child psychology is complicated, so let’s just ignore the parents responsibilities.

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      23 hours ago

      Is leaving your gun lying around where a 6 year old can acquire and use it to shoot someone one of those sinifificant uncontrollable elements?

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        21 hours ago

        No, because the existence of some uncontrollable elements doesn’t erase all the controllable elements.

        This woman did something very wrong and controllable, which is why she’s in prison.

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        Just because you don’t like guns doesn’t mean you should ruin some innocent person’s life over it. Law should not be about power and crushing your political opponents.

        That being said, it is very likely that she was neglectful of her child if he is 6 and wants to shoot his teacher, but honestly that’s something I could see myself doing when I was 6. I hated being in school, and from the kids perspective he is basically being forced into slavery by the state, and the teachers are making it nearly impossible for him to live his life as he wants. It’s not all that crazy when you realize that people have different perspectives. We live in a society where killing is considered bad, but we also normalize the idea of basically forcing children into prisons. I don’t think the kid is wrong. He is being forced there against his will, and obviously he doesn’t want to be in that class if he is willing to kill his teacher, but idk the details. There could also be some dumb or immoral reason for doing it. It’s very likely when they are 6. There is really no good reason for a 6 year old to be away from their parents. Its too young and we as a society have become so greedy that we are willing to accept these things so people can buy more stuff. One of the parents should be raising a child and not working if they are having children. Our society has failed Inca big way by doing this and it causes all kinds of negative effects on society.

        I think if there was a warning that the kid had a gun, the principal probably should have taken it from him and called his mother and asked why their kid is bringing guns to school? Definitely seems like mostly a failure of the administration, but since the mother in in prison for four years, I’m assuming she was a drug addict or something and not feeding or comforting her child, which probably exacerbated it, but then again just speculation.

        I guess the point is, from my limited knowledge of the event, just a headline, it seems like things probably worked out correctly in the case.

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      1 day ago

      Nothing fits into a perfect box, but if you breed you are responsible for the outcome until 18 regardless. If you think your kid might shoot someone… it’s your job to prevent that.

      Not everyone is qualified to be a parent.

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        A six year old is very unlikely to fully grasp what they are doing, and a parent wouldn’t necessarily “think their kid might shoot someone”.

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          Yes I agree. However, a six-year-old child does not randomly get the idea to take a gun to school and shoot a teacher. They get it from somewhere. They may not fully understand, but that doesn’t matter. I’m just happy that parent is in jail. I hope they do not get released early, and I hope they do not ever get to be that child guardian again

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        21 hours ago

        Nobody knows how parenthood will turn out, my friend. Nobody is qualified to decide who is qualified… Good.

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          13 hours ago

          I agree. And if it ends up that you weren’t qualified, that might be a jail sentence. Good.

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      20 hours ago

      I guess it depends on the household. I could say my mom did a great job at educating us. My siblings, mom, and I hold very similar values.