• TabbsTheBat (they/them)@pawb.social
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    22 days ago

    It really is illogical lol :3 I tried teaching my parents before and trying to explain why all 3 Es in mercedes or all 3 Cs in pacific ocean make different sounds like “they just do”

    Though my native language is quite hard for non-native speakers as well

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      22 days ago

      mercedes

      In English’s defence, it’s not an English word. It’s a German company named after a Spanish name. And at least to my ear, the Spanish and German pronunciations also have 3 different Es. One helpful Redditor also provided an IPA guide to the German pronunciation, agreeing with my ears:

      mɛrˈtseːdɛs

      The “e” in the middle is long and stressed.

      Edit: I would also say, that most of the times it is even pronounced like this:

      məˈtseːdɛs

      But I can’t even begin to justify the letter c sounding like /s/, /k/, and /ʃ/.

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        məˈtseːdɛs

        Don’t know about other Germans but for me, the last e is a schwa. So it’s more [mɛɐ̯ˈtseːdəs] I think but I’m not completely sure.

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        22 days ago

        Well the c being s and k thing comes from latin I think :3 like v and u being the same letter… and I believe i also had a second sound? Plus there’s vowel shifts that happened after the writing was standardized and all that, and characters that no longer exist like Þ and ð

        Either way it can be confusing when coming from a language with a fairly regular pronunciation ^^ (though of course we also have some quirks lol)

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        22 days ago

        For what it’s worth, all the ‘e’ in mercedes pronounced in swedish sound the same (first can sound ‘ä’ in some regions though).