https://figshare.unimelb.edu.au/articles/report/Misogyny_Online_Radicalisation_and_Youth_Extremism_in_Australia/33250176?file=67531593

Chapter 2 is where the interesting stuff is, they assessed people for misogynistic attitudes, and also political ones they deem extreme. They classify left wing extremism as indicated by:

  1. The rich will not give up their wealth easily. Organised violence, including against people, is the only way to make things fair for everyone.

  2. Capitalism is ruining the world and should be resisted with violence

Without getting distracted by a discussion of the um curious decision to classify that in the same way as beliefs like murdering people who wont fuck me is a cool and good I think it’s an interesting result.

Misogyny in left-wing spaces is real, and this survey indicates it’s not automatically less prevalent than in right wing spaces (although particular attitudes may differ). Despite shit like patriarchy and control of women being recognised as a problematic root of oppression by many prominent theorists (e.g. engles on the origin of class relations).

Something I think we should all think about.

Also at least Aussie gen z’ers seem a bit fucking cooked here, how do boomers have better attitudes about forcing sex on your wife than gen z women? wat is going on? I wonder if some of this can be explained through inexperience, but there is a stark difference between older and younger people. Also much less than between men and women than I would have expected.

Why are we failing to reach kids compared to the right wing here?

    • insurgentrat [she/her, it/its]@hexbear.netOP
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      24 days ago

      💯

      I had a rough childhood and while I wouldn’t wish it on anyone I do wonder if some exposure to what it actually feels like to be jolting in and out of consciousness while a group of people kick you might make people a little more cautious about increasing the amount of pain and suffering in the world.

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      25 days ago

      Everything you wrote is great. I appreciate you putting words to this as it is something that I have struggled with more generally, especially being in this community that is paying on various levels of irony over the years.

      i often wonder how many of us are aware how fucking horrifying that realization actually is. I grew up in a violent place. As a girl who had femininity literally beaten out of her, i’ve been in a fair share of fights. And i hated every single one of them, no matter if i “won” or not. Few things feel more disgusting than when the adrenaline wears off and you’re still pumped full of cortisol and you feel the blood dripping and the red mist around you recedes again. That violence is necessary in some situations does not change it is horrible.

      There is a difference between accepting violence as a necessary evil and yearning for an excuse to be a mass murderer. That line can get real blurry when you’re radicalizing.