• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    I wonder how long he’ll remain alive

    Not saying someone should kill him, he’ll do that himself quite well, I’m just saying that he seems to be sliding of a cliff for a while now. Yeah, ingope he slides faster, buy sliding he is

    Fuck Elmo

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    8 hours ago

    Guess my election-interfering space lasers didn’t work this time

    Dude actually tweeted this…

    Seriously, has there ever been a lamer person than Elon Musk?

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    Maybe it’s time to investigate his illegal citizenship and deport him back to where he came from. Or CECOT. Fuck Elon.

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    Congress should investigate Doge and charge some individuals for crimes committed. Sure drumpf will pardon them but that’ll just expose more of their corruption.

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      Trump’s pardons are an interesting thing. The more he pardons people now, the less leverage he has in the future, and he needs to hold onto that power for as long as he can. Cuz basically, he’s about to get fucked. The Epstein Files will be coming back into focus, and everyone who already was pardoned now has to testify under oath about everything when Congress calls them in for questioning. And if Trump doesn’t have allies (i.e., people who owe him shit), then he’ll be toasty in short order.

      Also, it’s hard to pardon someone effectively if you can’t figure out what crimes they committed. Who was actually employed by DOGE? What authority did they actually have? The DoJ lawyers refuse to explain that, because it would expose them to liability. So, because the legal landscape is ambiguous (from the DoJ’s perspective and intent), the pardons themselves are likely to miss large swaths of criminal activity.

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      I kind of think they should investigate that, among many, many other things, then decide if they want to charge them immediately, or decide if they can or should wait until trump is out to avoid a pardon. But they should get together a body of evidence as soon as possible.

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        Oh, no, take it to court now and let him pardon the fall guys. Then call them up to testify against the big players. The pardon acknowledges their guilt, meaning they can no longer plead the fifth.

        By the time that gets through the courts and we move on to trials for the ringleaders, it should be too late for Trump to parden any of the real responsible people.

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          Did Biden pardon people because he’s corrupt or did he do it because he knows Trump is a vindictive toddler?

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          Insane, didn’t know that was a thing. Almost like the whole pardon thing was designed for blatant corruption.

          Long shot, but maybe congress could get some legislation through limiting pardon power. Would need quite a few republicans to play ball though

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            The issue with that is, presidential pardons exist for a reason, as a solution to a problem, in part one of injustice and abuse of power of the legislative branch. Among a few other things, It’s purpose is a safety valve against unjust and cruel laws passed by a theoretically tyrannical or apathetic legislature.

            It’s easy to look at this from the lens of “The President is corrupt and Congress is good” and so we decide to let Congress take the pardon power away, but then what happens when you have the inverse situation where Congress is corrupt but the president is good? Now the president has no power to protect genuinely innocent people from injustice.

            This is what the American system of checks and balances is about. Every check is both a solution to corruption and a potential lever of corruption. The point is to split the power up so that while some corruption can happen, it’s the least likely to be able to become absolute. We cannot implicitly trust in the President, Congress, or the courts. And whenever there is a hard choice to make between “Punish innocent people” or “Allow the guilty to walk free”, the framers of the constitution erred on the side of the latter.

            But ultimately, we do have other mechanisms to deal with this. Specifically impeachment (Which pardons cannot be granted for), and the ability for us to vote out the president, or a legislature that is enabling them. Also the president cannot pardon anyone for state crimes.

            It’s a very messy, imperfect solution. But it has largely worked for 250 years.

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              But the president still controls the executive, and as we’ve seen, the Attorney General has considerable infulence in choosing who to prosecute and what laws to enforce.

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                  Yes, but were talking about a runaway congress overreaching to unjustly persecuted people by passing laws, such that a president’s power to pardon is required to prevent injustice.

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      A pardon is also an abject admission of guilt. Can’t be forgiven for something that you didn’t do, right??

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        It also prevents any further use of the 5th. And I don’t think pardons will cover civil suits that could come from the forced testimony and admissions of guilt. One can hope.

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    Imagine spending nearly half a billion dollars trying to buy an election, only to discover voters still get a say. He moved to Texas to escape California politics and ended up facing the same thing he was running from: accountability. That’s a remarkably expensive geography lesson.

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        There are reports he had to have one less scoop of ice cream after dinner last night, because of the expense of the elections.

        /s

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          The most unbelievable part of this is that Elon even enjoys ice cream, he probably thinks it makes him look gay

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    Moves his entire company from a blue state to avoid taxes. Current state he is living in turned blue last nite. Hitting the watered down ketamine pretty hard.

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    What kind of “real trouble” can a trillionaire even get into? Unless somebody makes a huge effort to cause him physical harm (or his family, I guess, but… yikes), he’s basically immune to consequences.

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      Treason if convicted should be the game ending one, but these people tend to not leave paper trail and has a pack of lawyer to bribe fight in court, so it’s a very hard one.

      His EV exploding while trapping him inside would be the next best option.

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      You’re talking about the most butt hurt, insecure man in the world, as evidenced by his own constant bitching and whining on a platform he bought not just to affect elections globally, but also to stop people from hurting his feelings by pointing out his many ridiculous shortcomings. Consequences come in many forms, and for narcissists, humiliation in public and being proven wrong is among the biggest.

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        To be fair, that’s not why he bought Twitter. He made a ridiculous offer to manipulate the stock so he could sell it and make money, but when he tried to back out of the sale, the SEC forced him to follow through. He reluctantly bought it because he’s an idiot.

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        You’re talking about the most butt hurt, insecure man in the world, as evidenced by his own constant bitching and whining on a platform he bought not just to affect elections globally, but also to stop people from hurting his feelings by pointing out his many ridiculous shortcomings.

        I legitimately didn’t know if you were talking about Musk or Trump right through the end!

        But technically Trump didn’t buy Truth Social, he just was gifted it by sycophants, so I guess that’s the difference.

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      Arrest him, or at least an order for his arrest. If/when he flees the country, freeze his accounts and his ability to profit off of his US based assets.

      He still would have more money than any of us can imagine wherever he flees to, but it would be a significant hit to his power and freedom, as he also couldn’t go to any country we have an extradition agreement with.

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    Lmk when they schedule the summary execution so i can request off work

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    More or less humiliating than losing his penis in a botched attempt at enlargement surgery?

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        Oh my goodness! “Interfere”! Define the nature of this “interference”, its magnitude, your evidence, and if it’s repeatable?

        Does it only exist when the results of the election upset you personally?

        Do they have magical jpgs that make your eyes spin like in old cartoons?

        But they only work sometimes?

        Contrast with Israel’s … uuhh… information campaigns.

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          Financing tim pool and Co. is an easy one. Jill Stein. Given how often you do exactly what you’re doing right now I’d say you too, but I feel like you’re an unpaid sucker.