Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran’s leadership must - if they haven’t already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


Last week’s thread is here.
The Imperialism Reading Group is here.

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The bulletins site is here. Currently not used.
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Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel’s destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia’s youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don’t want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it’s just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists’ side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR’s former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR’s forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster’s telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a ‘propaganda tax’, if you don’t believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


  • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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    alex jones allegedly on september 12th 2001 speaking (for him at least)… sense?! The fuck?

    Not exactly news but relevant to current affairs

    Edit: relevant because israel is causing trouble and I thought this was a weird novelty that would be fun to share

    • hellinkilla [comrade/them]
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      the current situation where iran and syria have nukes and USA is currently getting nuked by them? oh fuck is there another news mega where that is being covered? cause it hasn’t yet reached to my attention.

      man that’s some bullshit

      go listen to 5000 hours of this podcast. https://knowledgefight.com/ they cover the “sense” and other “predictions” of alex jones. (actually they cover how stupid people make posts like this because they get suckered in by right wing propaganda.)

      like all bullshit conspiracy a bit of reality woven in with the bigotry and hate so people who just like to think about what is WW2 went the other way can feel like they’r the good ones. only listen to the parts you agree with and ignore the rest.

      you know it’s only cause he hates the jews. can’t believe this is being posted and tolerated here.

      the only relevance is as a cautionary tale.

      damned bullshit.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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        I only meant relevant because it seems like israel very well might end up dragging us into some shit with iran which could domino, not that iran already has nukes and so does syria and thats why a nuclear war is gonna happen

        Just a novelty tangentially related to current events

        • hellinkilla [comrade/them]
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          I’d hardly call 20+ year old far right propaganda a novelty.

          But hey, maybe with some careful editing we can find few lines of the turner diaries that seem prophetic.

          It isn’t surprising that 1 person would have bad judgement to post a stupid video. Because anyone can have bad judgement. (Glass house here.) But how are there a pile of comments going along with it and nothing to indicate anyone else identifies the obvious bullshit?

          • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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            I don’t think anyone else took it as serious analysis of the current situation as you have, but a time capsule with a weird interesting thing in it sheesh, its not a big deal, we’re not espousing his world view

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              its a time capsule from 2025 about how gullible people can be.

              obviously that video was edited extremely recently. i feel like an asshole even trying to debunk this but that captioning style didn’t exist in the past. it is a contemporary pro far-right video seeking to emphasize the myth of alex jones as some sort of savant. which is bullshit of jones’ own creation for his own material benefit. it is just explicating ideas which are anti-semetic at their root. and as everyone can see, have absolutely nothing the fuck to do with any regard for palestinians or arabs or muslims as human beings. they are only objectified as to who is treating them worse. And they having zero agency except as the purveyors of further conspiracies that threaten the USamericans.

              So to review:

              • the conclusion is wrong
              • the premise is wrong
              • the analysis is somewhere between lib and fash

              woaw its soooooo intriguing.

              it’s just some far right propaganda which you posted and everyone else thought was OK. Would it be more fair to @ the 50+ upvoters? I feel bad haranguing 1 person.

              we’re not espousing his world view

              just posting some fash materials approvingly and without critique


              it doesn’t seem that the specific date sept 12 2001 has bene covered, but they did cover some of the dates around that one. and I’m sure explain the general reason why this is bullshit: https://knowledgefight.libsyn.com/size/25/?search=2001

    • SoloboiNanook [comrade/them]
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      Jones was always wacked but he was definitely way cooler in his early days of doing goofy shit like breaking into the bohemian grove lol

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      It’s so odd how conservatives can acknowledge genocide and war crimes against the Palestinians who are “being kept in concentration camps” and being “treated like cattle”, but then they always have to disavow Palestinians and throw them under the bus too. They have an allergic reaction to being the good guys for once and cannot stand to be taking the correct principled stance to oppose oppression, so they hedge back to their zionist masters with “I hate everyone” nihilism.

      “Oh no you mistake me! I’m not a principled humanitarian who cares about all people’s rights! I just hate the jews more!”

    • JamesConeZone [they/them]
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      Oh shit are we posting post 9/11 speeches? Time to post Jeremiah Wright’s sermon on 9/16/01 called “The Day of Jerusalem’s Fall”. During the famous part of his sermon, where he explains what “America’s chickens are coming home to roost” means (again the Sunday after 9/11!), he mentions that the US supported state terrorism against Palestinians and black South Africans “and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards.”

      key part of the sermon text

      I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday, did anybody else see him or hear him? He was on Fox News, this is a white man, and he was upsetting the Fox News commentators to no end. He pointed out, did you see him John, a white man, and he pointed out, an ambassador, that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Mohammed was in fact true, “America’s chickens…are coming home to roost.” We took this country by terror, away from the Sioux, the Apache, the Arowak, the Comanche, the Arapahoe, the Navajo. Terrorism. We took Africans from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism. We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel. We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenagers and toddlers, pregnant mothers, and hardworking fathers. We bombed Qaddafi’s home and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against a rock. We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to payback for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hardworking people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they would never get back home. We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children from school, civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and Black South Africans and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost! “Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism.” A white ambassador said that, ya’all. Not, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open, and who’s trying to get us to wake up. And move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people that we are wounding don’t have military capability we have – but the do have individuals who are willing to die to take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.

      We have got to change the way we have been doing things as an arrogant, racist, military superpower. Social transformation. We just can’t keep messing over people and thinkin’ that ‘can’t nobody do nuttin’ about it.’ They have shown us that they can and that they will. And let me suggest to you that rather than figure out who we gonna declare war on, maybe we need to declare on racism. Maybe we need to declare war on injustice. Maybe we need to declare war on greed. Those same lawmakers you saw gathered at the capital praying are the same lawmakers who just passed a 1.3 trillion dollar gift for the rich. Maybe we need to rethink the way we do politics and declare war on greed. Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS! In five minutes the congress found 40 billion dollars to rebuild New York and the families who died in sudden death. Do you think we could find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe! Maybe! Maybe we need to declare war on the health care system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage. Maybe we need to declare war on the mis-handled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay! This is a time for social transformation. We, we, we can’t go back do doin’ “business as usual.” And treatin’ the rest of the world like we’ve been treating them. This is a time for self-examination. And this is a time for social transformation.

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      Did not expect Alex Jones to call it a Hegelian Dialectic at the end there why-post-this