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Idk, I feel like some of the commentary on “postmodern film” falls into the trap of just making statements without really trying to demonstrate with actual examples, it kinda feels like just repeating a narrative of “Oh yeah everyone got tired of that dang ol postmodernism deconstructing everything and just being an ironic asshole about it all.” A narrative that exists in people with opinions on basically any kind of art form.
Just didnt click for me, felt like a guy saying subjective stuff at me as if they were facts.
just making statements without really trying to demonstrate with actual examples
I agree that his examples of films aren’t well explained or numerous but I think this essay is aimed at cinema junkies. Even though I haven’t seen all the films he talks about and disagree with some of his examples I do agree with his overall thesis that Meta-modernism is notable development storytelling as well as his definitions of modernism and post modernism in film.
Thats the eternal problem of talking about art, but at least describing fairly solid things like how stories are being told or making an attempt at concretely describing the emotions conveyed through the films is better than repeating blanket narratives that cover basically all art discourse.
He’s got one example of the most blatant comedic deconstruction in Monty Python, but a lot of the other featured films arent particularly clear. And what definition he uses for which films are actually postmodern is just not really explained either.
Tbh I thought the video was kind of obnoxiously nonpolitical when talking about “modernist” film and repeating that stuff about how “postmodern” film just points to a bunch of problems with no ideas for solutions, reminded me of smug ascended liberal speak.
Rick and Morty is a weird example, cause it feels like (with the framing the video uses) a postmodern reaction against metamodernism. Its whole shtick is building up apparent sincerity within an ironic absurdist setting and then tearing that sincerity down again in a wave of nihilism as the punchline, before promptly resetting the board to convince the audience (not necessarily the actual audience though, the imagined one you, the viewer, get to feel superior to) to try to kick the sincerity football again.
It’s because he’s approaching the development of a particular medium of art as completely self-contained and not being influenced by outside forces, especially economic forces. In other words, he’s being undialectical.
Idk, I feel like some of the commentary on “postmodern film” falls into the trap of just making statements without really trying to demonstrate with actual examples, it kinda feels like just repeating a narrative of “Oh yeah everyone got tired of that dang ol postmodernism deconstructing everything and just being an ironic asshole about it all.” A narrative that exists in people with opinions on basically any kind of art form.
Just didnt click for me, felt like a guy saying subjective stuff at me as if they were facts.
I agree that his examples of films aren’t well explained or numerous but I think this essay is aimed at cinema junkies. Even though I haven’t seen all the films he talks about and disagree with some of his examples I do agree with his overall thesis that Meta-modernism is notable development storytelling as well as his definitions of modernism and post modernism in film.
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Thats the eternal problem of talking about art, but at least describing fairly solid things like how stories are being told or making an attempt at concretely describing the emotions conveyed through the films is better than repeating blanket narratives that cover basically all art discourse.
He’s got one example of the most blatant comedic deconstruction in Monty Python, but a lot of the other featured films arent particularly clear. And what definition he uses for which films are actually postmodern is just not really explained either.
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Tbh I thought the video was kind of obnoxiously nonpolitical when talking about “modernist” film and repeating that stuff about how “postmodern” film just points to a bunch of problems with no ideas for solutions, reminded me of smug ascended liberal speak.
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Rick and Morty is a weird example, cause it feels like (with the framing the video uses) a postmodern reaction against metamodernism. Its whole shtick is building up apparent sincerity within an ironic absurdist setting and then tearing that sincerity down again in a wave of nihilism as the punchline, before promptly resetting the board to convince the audience (not necessarily the actual audience though, the imagined one you, the viewer, get to feel superior to) to try to kick the sincerity football again.
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It’s because he’s approaching the development of a particular medium of art as completely self-contained and not being influenced by outside forces, especially economic forces. In other words, he’s being undialectical.