• Snot Flickerman
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    386 months ago

    Sorry, I can’t hear you over the sound of being dead because I took the COVID vaccine.

    • @daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      26 months ago

      You don’t get it. They are part of the conspiracy. Same as all the flight personnel with chemtrails. Everything is a big conspiracy, except that Facebook post made by some anonymous account, that’s real.

  • @unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 months ago

    Well at least they can be. We just have to raise the trust in actual clinical trials more. Its perfectly reasonable to be skeptical and cautious until there is actual proof that something is safe. And if the studies are done well, they sadly take longer than a pandemic takes to spread. But better late than never for sure.

    • @shininghero@pawb.social
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      116 months ago

      Or remind people of the horrible specter that polio was, and the shadow it cast over society at the time. People lived in constant dread of catching something that could leave them physically ruined, and even wheelchair bound for the rest of their lives back then.

      Covid, in its early strains, had the potential to leave you hospitalized and drowning in your own lungs for weeks as it ran its course. Granted, that’s not polio levels of bad… But that’s still weeks of hell, and several more years of hospital billing hell that I would like to avoid.

      Weighing those outcomes, I opted for early access to the vaccine. Even though it was more to minimize the risk of an expensive hospital stay.

    • @thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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      26 months ago

      I love a clinical trial. Sign me the eff up. That being said, as you mention, there are some issues with the speed of trials. And in particular, the demographic spread that volunteers for clinical trials in the US is a problem because it’s typically a monolith: white women, college educated, generally healthy, ages 18-35 IIRC. Proportional representation is hard to find, and distrust in public health is (for good historical reasons) low in minority populations. Pulling in a wider swath of people isn’t possible, and researchers are missing massive chunks of data from which trust could be built.

  • Masterbaexunn
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    226 months ago

    The worst thing about it is that this kind of garbage is leaking out of the United States. US citizens are weird af and poorly educated.

  • @Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    156 months ago

    This guy in my city had anti vaxx banners and signs. One said “50k+ Canadians suffered side effects from the COVID vaccine!”

    So I looked up how many people were vaccinated in Canada, and 50k was below 1% of the people vaccinated. I pointed out to the guy that this means the vaccine had a success rate without side effects of 99% and how incredible that is. Dude got pissed at me and started yelling that I was a shill.

    I guess he didn’t like math and common sense

    • @CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
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      116 months ago

      Not to be that guy but 50,000 people is still a lot. Percentages are great because if they’re very low we tend to like that but it doesn’t change the absolute number.

      The real comparison isn’t how safe the vaccine is, its how safe the vaccine is compared to getting the disease it’s preventing. Every medical product is not about zero harm or low harm, it’s about harm reduction. If medical therapies didn’t cause harm, we wouldn’t have chemo treatments and we would be much worse at treating cancers.

      • @Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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        66 months ago

        Also though that 50k side effects is vague, what did the sign mean? A side effect can be a mild headache or rash, which I would imagine is the majority of those cases. A 99% rate for any medicine is incredible

    • Elaine Cortez
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      56 months ago

      I’ve had people tell me and my friends similar things to this. Some people just aren’t good with numbers and can’t put them into perspective with other numbers and arrive at scary conclusions with no further context. Canada has 40+ million people and side effects can include trivial things such as feeling tired or having a sore arm. On a similar note, 2 of the COVID vaccines were mRNA based and some people were scaremongering about how the vaccines must somehow alter your DNA because both “mRNA” and “DNA” sound vaguely similar.

  • @DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world
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    126 months ago

    Nuh uh, I get my immunization naturally by rolling around in shit and eating out of date food. Gotta not get any of that microplastic and microtrackers the Rockefeller’s put in the “vaccines”. FaceBook is my bible!

  • So there are actually levels to antivaxxers. The granola nuts that think putting anything into your body is a sin are actually the extreme minority or antivaxxers these days.

    The average antivaxxer is someone who has extremely little faith in both big pharma and the government as a whole. They usually come from a community that has been screwed over by both. In the US, this translates to older first generation immigrants, the African American community, and low income white people in areas that were hit hard by the opoid crisis.

    A lot of these people are cool with the traditional flu vaccine, because it’s been around forever. The covid vaccines on the other hand were met with skepticism, on account of it being “untested”. In their eyes FDA testing and positive media coverage don’t mean anything, because in their eyes both groups have lied to their faces in the past.

    A lot of the antivaxxer discourse during covid frustrated me. While there were people who were legitimately just idiots, there were a lot of communities who had fears rooted in genuine trauma and frustration. Calling them a bunch of idiotic death cultists and then celebrating on social media when one of them died just resulted in those communities distrusting the system further.

  • @pH3ra@lemmy.ml
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    96 months ago

    At this stage, the people who still need to hear this are the people we’d like to get rid of, so that problem is probably going to solve itself

    • @Isa@feddit.org
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      66 months ago

      Those people often have children who’s only failure is to be born in such a family. Saying that the problem is going to solve itself is rather unempathic and will do quite some harm the said children of such people. (Just saying)

      • @pH3ra@lemmy.ml
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        06 months ago

        Yeah sorry, I tend to get misantropic during the festivities. Right now doing harm to children is like you’re trying to sell it to me even more

    • esa
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      16 months ago

      We’ve been making flu vaccines for a long time now, and the flu has always been a virus that comes in various strains so you need to renew the vaccine frequently (usually once a year, as opposed to other vaccines that can last you a decade), and the medical industry needs to know which strains to make vaccines for.

      Part of the thing with covid was that it was novel, and the vaccines were as well, because they needed to be not just developed fast, but deployed fast.

      This isn’t the first time H5N1 is making the rounds, and there have been vaccines for it for over a decade. Depending on where you live, your country may have a stockpile of vaccines or just ordered one.

      The problems humanity will face with the virus is one of uneven distribution of vaccines due to uneven distribution of wealth, poor health care policies, and science denialism / vaccine conspiracy nightmares.

  • bitwolf
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    6 months ago

    Anyone know the proper name for this meme template?

    Had trouble finding with "yelling bird " “inhale exhale” “bird announce”

  • @buttfarts@lemy.lol
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    46 months ago

    Chuds will exacerbate the bird flu by engaging in every unnecessary behavior that can cause transmission just because somebody informs them not to.

  • /home/pineapplelover
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    26 months ago

    Got a friend who’s anti vax because they said a couple of their friends didn’t get vaccinated and were fine, those who did get it suffered from covid and got very sick.